I Told You RIM Was in Trouble • Hacker News Board

Re: I Told You RIM Was in Trouble

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Post by muppetman » Sat, Mar 26, 2011, 8:26 AM UTC

dlsspy wrote: post #2

Whatever happened to http://rim.jobs/ ? Apparently they're no longer hiring.

Why is this comment being downvoted? That site linked was actually a site where RIM were advertising jobs. Of course lots of people make the obvious joke about it, but I don't think the comment deserves downvoting.

Re: I Told You RIM Was in Trouble

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Post by crasshopper » Sat, Mar 26, 2011, 8:49 AM UTC

kosmonaut wrote: post #10

joeguilmette wrote: post #3

link to the RIM CEO's talk. worth a read. if i had RIM stock i would be frantically selling it right now. http://pastie.org/1716857

I tried to read it but it's headache inducing (the talk, not the colors). Wow.

Don't understand what you two see as obviously wrong there. RIMM is betting on speed and web (HTML5) over native apps.

I would rather get fast www pages than apps from the app store. If I can have gmail, pdf's, wikip, and a few random pages open at once I'm very happy.

Re: I Told You RIM Was in Trouble

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Post by thought_alarm » Sat, Mar 26, 2011, 8:59 AM UTC

georgieporgie wrote: post #5

it’s limited to the all-but-obsolete Android 2.3 “Gingerbread” runtime. Uh. 3.0 was created specifically to address tablet concerns, was it not? 2.3 is still the new hotness for phones.

That, and 3.0 is still a closed-source and proprietary platform. It's also intended for 10-inch devices.

Re: I Told You RIM Was in Trouble

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Post by bvi » Sat, Mar 26, 2011, 9:00 AM UTC

jarin wrote: post #9

"If that’s not a win-win synergy of agile infrastructure assets, well you need to start pivoting." My favorite part of the whole article.

I've started to loathe the word "pivot".

Re: I Told You RIM Was in Trouble

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Post by jarin » Sat, Mar 26, 2011, 9:46 AM UTC

muppetman wrote: post #11

dlsspy wrote: post #2

Whatever happened to http://rim.jobs/ ? Apparently they're no longer hiring.

Why is this comment being downvoted? That site linked was actually a site where RIM were advertising jobs. Of course lots of people make the obvious joke about it, but I don't think the comment deserves downvoting.

Apparently it left a bad taste in peoples' mouths...

Re: I Told You RIM Was in Trouble

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Post by alexqgb » Sat, Mar 26, 2011, 10:03 AM UTC

bvi wrote: post #14

jarin wrote: post #9

"If that’s not a win-win synergy of agile infrastructure assets, well you need to start pivoting." My favorite part of the whole article.

I've started to loathe the word "pivot".

To remain an agile noun, "pivot" needs to pivot asap.

Re: I Told You RIM Was in Trouble

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Post by notahacker » Sat, Mar 26, 2011, 12:14 PM UTC

wtracy wrote: post #6

If I were at Palm now or before their acquisition by HP, I would be pushing to ease up on the consumer focus and make an all-out attack on Blackberry's home turf. RIM has completely lost focus. It has taken its eyes off of its own flagship product, and is busy trying to copy whatever anyone else is doing--but it can't really make up its mind who it wants to copy. I think WebOS could have been a tremendous hit in ente…

If I was in charge of strategy at Microsoft I'd have doubled down on WP7 for the enterprise market - the company that brought the enterprise their OS, their Office suite, their .NET dev framework and even their little-loved Exchange server really ought to be able to steal huge chunks of market share from RIM. Even if the actual tangible connections between the products are minimal, MS ought to have had a more buzzword-laden pitch which appeals to enterprise decision makers more than "actually, it's really easy to develop for"

Re: I Told You RIM Was in Trouble

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Post by 5l » Sat, Mar 26, 2011, 12:53 PM UTC

Zev wrote: post #7

georgieporgie wrote: post #5

it’s limited to the all-but-obsolete Android 2.3 “Gingerbread” runtime. Uh. 3.0 was created specifically to address tablet concerns, was it not? 2.3 is still the new hotness for phones.

The PlayBook is a tablet, not a phone.

And yet Apple also trumpeted the numbers of apps available for the iPad on launch, despite the vast majority of these being iPhone or iPod Touch apps not optimised for the tablet.

Re: I Told You RIM Was in Trouble

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Mar 26, 2011, 1:31 PM UTC

jarin wrote: post #15

muppetman wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is this comment being downvoted? That site linked was actually a site where RIM were advertising jobs. Of course lots of people make the obvious joke about it, but I don't think the comment deserves downvoting.

Apparently it left a bad taste in peoples' mouths...

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Re: I Told You RIM Was in Trouble

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Post by danilocampos » Sat, Mar 26, 2011, 1:34 PM UTC

5l wrote: post #18

Zev wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The PlayBook is a tablet, not a phone.

And yet Apple also trumpeted the numbers of apps available for the iPad on launch, despite the vast majority of these being iPhone or iPod Touch apps not optimised for the tablet.

That was a year ago, when they had no competition. Now the iPad has 65,000 apps optimized for its form factor. You don't get to compete with last year and still win.