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Turkey determined to control social media platforms, Erdogan says

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Re: Turkey determined to control social media platforms, Erdogan says

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Post by hetspookjee »

It's all too interesting what is happening in the region. Some say he's going back Ottoman empire with his entire navy and claiming pieces of Cyprus to the disliking of Cyprus and Greece. While also performing enormous military exercises under the guise of Mavi Vatan, which also bears symbolic reference to their history.

Meanwhile Erdogan is set on keeping the steady flow of immigrants coming for as long as he's the gate holder, the EU will bow to many of Erdogans demands.

Concurrently Russia is said be rerunning the USSR book and is desperate in acquiring more territory. For as long as I've lived I can recall the USA being somewhat the voice of reason in these situations but USA is too occupied with their own stuff currently.

I think theirs trouble on the horizon as Erdogan and Puttins position become more and more unsustainable with the citizens of said countries being more and more unhappy with them.

Re: Turkey determined to control social media platforms, Erdogan says

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Post by hetspookjee »

haunter wrote: post #8
bitcharmer wrote: post #6

I wonder what some mid- to long-term consequences of Turkey slipping into dictatorship will be for NATO as a whole. It's clear Turkey is drifting away from the values held by the alliance members. I'm so glad they haven't been accepted into the EU. That would be a disaster.

Nothing. Just like how Poland and Hungary are EU members and they are walking their own way not giving a f about anything, rewriting the constitutions and laws as they wish

And completely backing each other in the votes as well... It's a sham.

Re: Turkey determined to control social media platforms, Erdogan says

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Post by learc83 »

blumomo wrote: post #3

„... pressing ahead with government plans after he said his family was insulted online“ That’s how you frame your readers. The author doesn’t know whether there’s causal relation between the possible insult and the plans to control the social platforms. But this is how media tricks the readers in thinking so.

> The author doesn’t know whether there’s causal relation between the possible insult and the plans to control the social platforms.

I don't know--seems pretty clear to me.

“Do you see why we oppose social media like YouTube, Twitter, Netflix, etc...?” Erdogan asked in reference to the alleged insults of his family members. “It is imperative that these channels are brought under control.”

Again in reference to the insults:

"We experienced similar attacks in the past. The lack of monitoring on these platforms have a role in the rise of this sort of immoral behaviour. These platforms do not suit this country. We want these platforms to be banned, taken under control."

Re: Turkey determined to control social media platforms, Erdogan says

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Post by lowdose »

bitcharmer wrote: post #6

I wonder what some mid- to long-term consequences of Turkey slipping into dictatorship will be for NATO as a whole. It's clear Turkey is drifting away from the values held by the alliance members. I'm so glad they haven't been accepted into the EU. That would be a disaster.

> I'm so glad they haven't been accepted into the EU. That would be a disaster.

At that time though Turkey would have been a real welcome growth addition to the EU.

2005 +9% growth, the year the EU opened accession negotiations with Turkey.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union%E2%80%93Turke...

Re: Turkey determined to control social media platforms, Erdogan says

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Post by nurettin »

bitcharmer wrote: post #6

I wonder what some mid- to long-term consequences of Turkey slipping into dictatorship will be for NATO as a whole. It's clear Turkey is drifting away from the values held by the alliance members. I'm so glad they haven't been accepted into the EU. That would be a disaster.

This is the sixth or seventh incident within the past 10 years. Every time economy goes to the gutter, they make a speech about how "outside forces are trying to bring us down" or "the world is envious" or "we will shut down twitter". Two weeks later, everything goes back to normal. So far, wikipedia took the longest to recover because everyone was too scared to take action without asking the president and he was probably too busy with other things like blaming trump for the devaluation of turkish lira or inciting war in idlib. It's mostly unmaintainable posturing. He got a little ruffled up after his candidate lost the election for the mayorship of istanbul last summer and the competing party started spilling out their money laundering schemes. It's usually all bark and no bite.

Re: Turkey determined to control social media platforms, Erdogan says

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Post by lki876 »

haunter wrote: post #8
bitcharmer wrote: post #6

I wonder what some mid- to long-term consequences of Turkey slipping into dictatorship will be for NATO as a whole. It's clear Turkey is drifting away from the values held by the alliance members. I'm so glad they haven't been accepted into the EU. That would be a disaster.

Nothing. Just like how Poland and Hungary are EU members and they are walking their own way not giving a f about anything, rewriting the constitutions and laws as they wish

> Just like how Poland and Hungary are EU members and they are walking their own way not giving a f about anything, rewriting the constitutions and laws as they wish

There are mechanisms in place to change constitutions and laws in all countries. The primary function of parliament is to legislate. In Poland, Hungary and the rest of the EU.

Re: Turkey determined to control social media platforms, Erdogan says

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Post by zaarn »

haunter wrote: post #8
bitcharmer wrote: post #6

I wonder what some mid- to long-term consequences of Turkey slipping into dictatorship will be for NATO as a whole. It's clear Turkey is drifting away from the values held by the alliance members. I'm so glad they haven't been accepted into the EU. That would be a disaster.

Nothing. Just like how Poland and Hungary are EU members and they are walking their own way not giving a f about anything, rewriting the constitutions and laws as they wish

They are because being kicked out of the EU requires unanimous vote and hungary and poland just veto eachother into the EU. Nobody expected two states to become fascist at the same time when the EU was created.

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Post by bluetomcat »

haunter wrote: post #8
bitcharmer wrote: post #6

I wonder what some mid- to long-term consequences of Turkey slipping into dictatorship will be for NATO as a whole. It's clear Turkey is drifting away from the values held by the alliance members. I'm so glad they haven't been accepted into the EU. That would be a disaster.

Nothing. Just like how Poland and Hungary are EU members and they are walking their own way not giving a f about anything, rewriting the constitutions and laws as they wish

Bulgaria is another notable outlier. Formal EU member, democracy by constitution, government officials relatively well respected in Brussels. Inside - autocratic regime with no division of powers, facade institutions serving the interest of the political oligarchy, no authentic political parties representing the interests of the wider population.
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