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The U.S. Has Officially Unflattened the Curve

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Re: The U.S. Has Officially Unflattened the Curve

#11

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Nope; CA is one of the highest-growing states. The Bay Area was flat, but it just spiked yesterday and reopening is now paused.

Nope, just checked the data on the Santa Clara hospitalizations link - only the number of tests is increasing, not admissions or mortality. Same for months. The press is saying one thing, but the official stats say flat - month after month. I guess newspapers value outrage over public service. You would need a magnifying glass to see anything significant. Only 72 hospitalized patients today (2,278 more available), hi…

Hopefully this undermines your belief that technical people are in some way immune to all the biases, emotions, fears, hopes and general humanity of people at large. Frequently, they're worse; they believe themselves to be hyper-rational cyborgs driven purely by evidence, giving themselves carte blanche to assume they're unaffected and thus don't even need to examine their own thinking.

Yes, I too am a mental mess and use reasoning and convenient choice of evidence to justify decisions and opinions I already formed.

Re: The U.S. Has Officially Unflattened the Curve

#13
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They don’t mention hospitalization or deaths. Those are the two to keep track of. I’m guessing far more people are getting tested than previously, hence the larger numbers.

It took me 10 minutes to get over my shock at your comment. Information entirely refuting your "guess" that the larger numbers are due to more people being tested is available at your fingertips. It takes about a second to google, click and read this information. I think you may be the victim of propaganda. You would do well to rethink your information sources and implicit biases.

Re: The U.S. Has Officially Unflattened the Curve

#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope; CA is one of the highest-growing states. The Bay Area was flat, but it just spiked yesterday and reopening is now paused.

Nope, just checked the data on the Santa Clara hospitalizations link - only the number of tests is increasing, not admissions or mortality. Same for months. The press is saying one thing, but the official stats say flat - month after month. I guess newspapers value outrage over public service. You would need a magnifying glass to see anything significant. Only 72 hospitalized patients today (2,278 more available), hi…

Are you serious? You seem dangerously self-absorbed and misinformed. Your original comment referred to CALIFORNIA. Now you are arguing about Santa Clara hospitalizations (a very lagging indicator), which is many levels different from your original (and incredibly incorrect) point.

Re: The U.S. Has Officially Unflattened the Curve

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, just checked the data on the Santa Clara hospitalizations link - only the number of tests is increasing, not admissions or mortality. Same for months. The press is saying one thing, but the official stats say flat - month after month. I guess newspapers value outrage over public service. You would need a magnifying glass to see anything significant. Only 72 hospitalized patients today (2,278 more available), hi…

Hopefully this undermines your belief that technical people are in some way immune to all the biases, emotions, fears, hopes and general humanity of people at large. Frequently, they're worse; they believe themselves to be hyper-rational cyborgs driven purely by evidence, giving themselves carte blanche to assume they're unaffected and thus don't even need to examine their own thinking. Yes, I too am a mental mess an…

The person you are approvingly replying to is overconfident and wrong.

Re: The U.S. Has Officially Unflattened the Curve

#18
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They don’t mention hospitalization or deaths. Those are the two to keep track of. I’m guessing far more people are getting tested than previously, hence the larger numbers.

Those are immune to the sampling rate bias, but they are lagging indicators. Based on the recent widespread failures to socially distance (e.g. George Floyd protests, campaign rallys, etc), I suspect those lagging charts will start trending upwards. You can also correct for the sampling rate bias by looking at the number of cases per 100,000 tests (or similar). Does anyone have a link tracking that? EDIT: percentage…

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Re: The U.S. Has Officially Unflattened the Curve

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They don’t mention hospitalization or deaths. Those are the two to keep track of. I’m guessing far more people are getting tested than previously, hence the larger numbers.

The deaths are increasing too. 2500+ people passed away yesterday (June 25) in the US.

From all causes? Covid number is lower

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Re: The U.S. Has Officially Unflattened the Curve

#20
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They don’t mention hospitalization or deaths. Those are the two to keep track of. I’m guessing far more people are getting tested than previously, hence the larger numbers.

Those are immune to the sampling rate bias, but they are lagging indicators. Based on the recent widespread failures to socially distance (e.g. George Floyd protests, campaign rallys, etc), I suspect those lagging charts will start trending upwards. You can also correct for the sampling rate bias by looking at the number of cases per 100,000 tests (or similar). Does anyone have a link tracking that? EDIT: percentage…

Areas with BLM actions have not seen an increase in rates of infection.

https://www.popsci.com/story/health/black-lives-matter-prote...

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