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Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by idiocratic »

asveikau wrote: post #2

On some of those peak days of BLM protests, I came on here and it was like the whole thing wasn't happening. It did seem strange. If nothing else people here should stop pretending they're above the zeitgeist. How many others remember the slashdot threads on 9/11, for example? This is a big defining moment in our times worth more conscious observance. Tech cares too.

Maybe HN (and the web) has become less US-centric and more global? In Europe the issue is marginal to say the least, in Asia I believe they don't even consider it news-worthy, and so on. The opposite of "defining" for most of the planet.

Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by s9w »

scollet wrote: post #7
s9w wrote: post #3

"And I think I’m done with it" and posts on HN. This topic was discussed to death - right now the story right under this is another tech company yielding to the speech police mob by doing another master branch rename. This topic has suffocated anything of relevance in the last weeks.

> anything of relevance What about this discussion is not relevant? I remember HN getting over COVID about a month ago too.

It's against the rules for one - but those only apply to some.

Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by azhu »

thechosenblerd wrote: post #5

That's the unfortunate reality of the tech community and really privilege itself. It's uncomfortable to acknowledge the misfortunes of others. It's a sad norm of American culture, especially when it pertains to black people.

Agreed. Its constituents should endeavor to change that similar to how broader society is doing so around it.

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Post by free_rms »

azhu wrote: post #9

As a younger person, I agree, it is very disappointing. I would've guessed YC more prescient than to not realize there are tectonic cultural shifts heavily worth deep discussion happening. I've noticed that sometimes, when people rise through ranks or otherwise mature in the world of business, they become disconnected from regular humanity and forget that emotions are real signals.

(since this whole story is flagged)

As an older person, this is another iteration of the same shit and unfortunately nothing will change.

Part of the reason it won't change is that a bunch of upper-class white people try to make it all about their sociological theories instead of the really simple premise of "cops aren't accountable and that's not ok". They're spending their effort going after Scott Alexander, who's generally on their side on this stuff, for his insufficient group loyalty. It's a total self-own, constantly from these people, and it plays right into the cops' hands.

We're up against a lot of resistance and there's no room for selfishness like that.

Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by joe-collins »

legohead wrote: post #6

There are plenty of appropriate places to talk about BLM and other world events. Just because the community here may not be focused on it doesn't make it a bad community. Frankly, when sociological discussions show up here it's kind of awkward.

Perhaps they're awkward because they're unpracticed.

In most tech threads, the top comments are often those with an insider opinion or "back in my day" tale. A sociological thread doesn't typically lend itself to those. And I assume HN has a far smaller proportion of experts (and less motivation to snag that ego boost from flaunting wisdom) on the trending topics (e.g. black persons and other victims of police brutality) than it would for, say, such-and-such Ruby feature.

Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by [deleted] »

legohead wrote: post #6

There are plenty of appropriate places to talk about BLM and other world events. Just because the community here may not be focused on it doesn't make it a bad community. Frankly, when sociological discussions show up here it's kind of awkward.

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Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by aiscapehumanity »

Done with caring about comments here that aren't links to resources. Karma system is dysfunctional, and socialization here isn't too meaningful coupled with the guidelines. I'm about to lose points, but as far as I am concerned real community here is dead. But I respect the decision to leave.

Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by _8j50 »

Oh wow, this made it to the front page and it just got flagged! I was going to say how i really don't care about mainstream news topics worming their way to HN but man, this is crazy. I understand downvotes and bans but flagging this and shadowbans are hitting below the belt.

Is this site for the intellectually dishonest? If not this b.s. needs to stop. How many "I quit facebook" posts make it to the front page all the time? How many social activism related topics make it to the front page. Counter argument to those who say it's not relevant: technology made these protests possible and technlogy is where the fight is happening right now.

I hope the moderator team (@dang) pays attention to this.

Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by andrewxdiamond »

I am pretty confused. What kindof discussion is expected? Searching for "police" or "BLM" on the site brings up many heavily commented threads.

Do they know the site has a search function? I didn't for a while. There's a search box on the bottom of the page

Re: I think I’m done with HN

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Post by aiscapehumanity »

legohead wrote: post #6

There are plenty of appropriate places to talk about BLM and other world events. Just because the community here may not be focused on it doesn't make it a bad community. Frankly, when sociological discussions show up here it's kind of awkward.

There is no community, just a weird amorphous group that stands between other conspecifics and mods who flag and silence posts they don't like.
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