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US Senators ask Apple to pull DUI checkpoint apps

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Re: US Senators ask Apple to pull DUI checkpoint apps

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While I certainly don't condone driving while impaired - I feel like the government trying to outright ban legal technologies that allow citizens to avoid government authority sets a dangerous precedent. this technology should not be promoted to your customers--in fact, it shouldn't even be available. It shouldn't even be available? That sounds sketchy to me. I know slippery slope is a logical fallacy, but if this li…

To be fair, there's a difference between "you shouldn't do this" and "you shouldn't be allowed to do this". At least in this letter, the senators are not explicitly trying or threatening to ban anything.

Re: US Senators ask Apple to pull DUI checkpoint apps

#13

While I certainly don't condone driving while impaired - I feel like the government trying to outright ban legal technologies that allow citizens to avoid government authority sets a dangerous precedent. this technology should not be promoted to your customers--in fact, it shouldn't even be available. It shouldn't even be available? That sounds sketchy to me. I know slippery slope is a logical fallacy, but if this li…

That's going a bit far. People May use encryption for illegal activities. What possible use does the DUI checkpoint software have, outside of enabling drunk drivers?

Avoiding checkpoints if you're sober and don't want the inconvenience of waiting in line at a checkpoint for one. Also see the explanations of other people in this thread describing how announcing the locations of the checkpoints ahead of time can be more effective.

Re: US Senators ask Apple to pull DUI checkpoint apps

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post #12

While I certainly don't condone driving while impaired - I feel like the government trying to outright ban legal technologies that allow citizens to avoid government authority sets a dangerous precedent. this technology should not be promoted to your customers--in fact, it shouldn't even be available. It shouldn't even be available? That sounds sketchy to me. I know slippery slope is a logical fallacy, but if this li…

To be fair, there's a difference between "you shouldn't do this" and "you shouldn't be allowed to do this". At least in this letter, the senators are not explicitly trying or threatening to ban anything.

The quote is taken directly from the article: in fact, it shouldn't even be available

Re: US Senators ask Apple to pull DUI checkpoint apps

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While I certainly don't condone driving while impaired - I feel like the government trying to outright ban legal technologies that allow citizens to avoid government authority sets a dangerous precedent. this technology should not be promoted to your customers--in fact, it shouldn't even be available. It shouldn't even be available? That sounds sketchy to me. I know slippery slope is a logical fallacy, but if this li…

That's going a bit far. People May use encryption for illegal activities. What possible use does the DUI checkpoint software have, outside of enabling drunk drivers?

The same reason it would be nice to know if a traffic-stopping car accident occurred: I would use it for shortening commute times. Why should I wait in line to tell an officer that I'm not doing anything illegal when I haven't been doing anything illegal?

Re: US Senators ask Apple to pull DUI checkpoint apps

#16

While I certainly don't condone driving while impaired - I feel like the government trying to outright ban legal technologies that allow citizens to avoid government authority sets a dangerous precedent. this technology should not be promoted to your customers--in fact, it shouldn't even be available. It shouldn't even be available? That sounds sketchy to me. I know slippery slope is a logical fallacy, but if this li…

That's going a bit far. People May use encryption for illegal activities. What possible use does the DUI checkpoint software have, outside of enabling drunk drivers?

Maybe I'm sober and don't want to wait in traffic. Or maybe I'm drunk and don't want a ticket.

The point is that it doesn't really matter. The very first constitutional amendment ensures that the government's power is limited such that it doesn't need to evaluate the content of its citizens' speech.

Re: US Senators ask Apple to pull DUI checkpoint apps

#17

While I certainly don't condone driving while impaired - I feel like the government trying to outright ban legal technologies that allow citizens to avoid government authority sets a dangerous precedent. this technology should not be promoted to your customers--in fact, it shouldn't even be available. It shouldn't even be available? That sounds sketchy to me. I know slippery slope is a logical fallacy, but if this li…

That's going a bit far. People May use encryption for illegal activities. What possible use does the DUI checkpoint software have, outside of enabling drunk drivers?

They do list these stops in most papers and on local TV around the holidays, like someone else commented. Making an app just makes it easier to get the information.

Re: US Senators ask Apple to pull DUI checkpoint apps

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While I'm all for the app, I think this is faulty reasoning. Checking an app for checkpoints and devising an alternate route when you're so drunk that you call an ex-girlfriend at 1AM is one matter, but there are plenty of people with over-the-legal-limit lagged reaction times who shouldn't be driving yet are able to parse out the info from an app.

Re: US Senators ask Apple to pull DUI checkpoint apps

#19

While I certainly don't condone driving while impaired - I feel like the government trying to outright ban legal technologies that allow citizens to avoid government authority sets a dangerous precedent. this technology should not be promoted to your customers--in fact, it shouldn't even be available. It shouldn't even be available? That sounds sketchy to me. I know slippery slope is a logical fallacy, but if this li…

That's going a bit far. People May use encryption for illegal activities. What possible use does the DUI checkpoint software have, outside of enabling drunk drivers?

Feel free to write an app that helps the police arrest drunk drivers if you dislike them so much.

Re: US Senators ask Apple to pull DUI checkpoint apps

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's going a bit far. People May use encryption for illegal activities. What possible use does the DUI checkpoint software have, outside of enabling drunk drivers?

The same reason it would be nice to know if a traffic-stopping car accident occurred: I would use it for shortening commute times. Why should I wait in line to tell an officer that I'm not doing anything illegal when I haven't been doing anything illegal?

Let's just let the officer determine that for himself, shall we? ;)
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