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Re: We're in a New Energy Crisis. This One is Personal.

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Post by quanticle » Wed, Mar 23, 2011, 2:58 PM UTC

Is it just me, or do a lot of the complaints in the article sound quite ungrateful? Take this one for example:

>Just last week, I had a conversation with an HR executive at a leading financial institution. He was calling because two of his firm's most important executives - each paid millions and millions of dollars - had come to him saying they just weren't sure they could keep it up anymore.

>They each listed their challenges: incredibly long hours, relentless travel, 24-7 digital demands, time away from their families and insufficient energy to even take care of themselves.

I read it as, "I'm tired of getting paid big bucks to jet-set around the world on the company's dime." I compare this to the situation faced by the bottom billion of the world - e.g. being unsure of where the next meal is going to come from and I have a very hard time taking any of these executives' complaints seriously.

Top executives are like professional athletes. The pressure to perform is an inherent part of the job, and indeed, it is what justifies the high salaries and other rewards. You can't accept an executive position and then complain about the stresses of the job. Stress comes with the territory, just like the $250,000 a year salary.

Re: We're in a New Energy Crisis. This One is Personal.

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Post by grammaton » Wed, Mar 23, 2011, 3:00 PM UTC

quanticle wrote: post #11

Is it just me, or do a lot of the complaints in the article sound quite ungrateful? Take this one for example: >Just last week, I had a conversation with an HR executive at a leading financial institution. He was calling because two of his firm's most important executives - each paid millions and millions of dollars - had come to him saying they just weren't sure they could keep it up anymore. >They each listed their…

>The pressure to perform is an inherent part of the job

This is an inherent part of any person's job. Executives are not unique snowflakes in this regard.

What struck me as really disconnected from reality in the complaints was that everything they complained about are things that also afflict people in the same companies - who make far less money than they do. Perhaps they'd like to add "financial turmoil" to the list and see how they feel then?

Re: We're in a New Energy Crisis. This One is Personal.

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Post by quanticle » Wed, Mar 23, 2011, 3:08 PM UTC

grammaton wrote: post #12

quanticle wrote: post #11

Is it just me, or do a lot of the complaints in the article sound quite ungrateful? Take this one for example: >Just last week, I had a conversation with an HR executive at a leading financial institution. He was calling because two of his firm's most important executives - each paid millions and millions of dollars - had come to him saying they just weren't sure they could keep it up anymore. >They each listed their…

>The pressure to perform is an inherent part of the job This is an inherent part of any person's job. Executives are not unique snowflakes in this regard. What struck me as really disconnected from reality in the complaints was that everything they complained about are things that also afflict people in the same companies - who make far less money than they do. Perhaps they'd like to add "financial turmoil" to the li…

Agreed. If the typical executive really is as self-centered as the ones cited in this article, the depressing regularity of financial malfeasance is no surprise. After all, from their perspective, its just them "taking what they're owed."

Re: We're in a New Energy Crisis. This One is Personal.

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Post by grammaton » Wed, Mar 23, 2011, 3:12 PM UTC

electromagnetic wrote: post #3

Vivtek wrote: post #2

What, you mean you can't increase human productivity without limit in order to increase shareholder value? And here I thought the world could eventually get by with a single super-productive executive.

It worked in Futurama, Hermes got an entire slave-labour mine to be run single handedly by an Australian man. If it works in a cartoon then social convention dictates that it must be true!

Good news everyone!

Re: We're in a New Energy Crisis. This One is Personal.

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Post by d4nt » Wed, Mar 23, 2011, 4:37 PM UTC

grammaton wrote: post #6

d4nt wrote: post #5

I'd like to believe we're hitting a productivity limit, but I'm skeptical. Historically, we still work shorter hours, take more holidays and have more leasure activity than our ancestors. I guess what is different is that we've automated lots of mechanical/clerical tasks like finding a file, duplicating and delivering a memo or compiling a report. Executives used to need a large staff to do that for them but there ar…

>we still work shorter hours, take more holidays and have more leasure activity than our ancestors No, we don't. Peruse any study on this subject by a reputable researcher - we actually work far more hours and have much less leisure time than almost any point in prior history (the notable exception perhaps being the end of the 19th century).

Apologies, I stand corrected.

But people used to work 6 days a week with no paid vacation time. What about all the slaves who worked 16 hour days. All those children in factories or down mines, are all those hours being factored in?