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I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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I’ve tried to cancel my virgin media subscription twice (because it’s too expensive), and each time was upsold a more expensive package. I explained this to my wife, who laughed at me, then the same thing happened to her.

I rang up several years ago to try to get a discount for reasons I can't remember. I ended up being upsold and today I'm spending far more money than I should, but my Internet is so, so fast. And my IP address, whilst not "static", changes about once every three years. Not something you'd run a website on, but very convenient as a developer when being restricted by IP range.

I've heard the customer service is bad, but to be honest, I never need it speak to them. On the whole, a happy customer over the last 18 years (whoever they were when I signed up in 2002- NTL? Cable& Wireless?)

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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Abuses such as this infuriate me, and I typically have a very low tolerance for them now.

Any business that is causing trouble at my expense still gets one polite attempt to contact them via their preferred means and a reasonable chance to respond, but usually only one. I'm not hanging around on the phone for more than a few minutes or waiting more than a couple of working days for a substantial response to an online message.

My next contact is normally now a recorded delivery letter sent to their registered address, which here in England is something any business with the typical legal structure must have as a matter of public record and where mail sent to it must be read. I set out my grievance, what I want them to do about it, and often at this point some compensation I want for the problem and/or subsequent trouble getting it dealt with, in a form that can become the start of a formal legal action if necessary.

This strategy has generally been enough to get whatever the problem was resolved reasonably quickly and without any further messing around. I suspect this is because anything that turns up in that form and is potentially relevant to a real legal action automatically gets passed to the business's legal team to deal with. The legal team presumably then has both the awareness to recognise a legitimate grievance and the authority to do something about it rather than let it escalate.

I don't like that this seems to have become necessary to get a reasonable response from a lot of large businesses today, but fortunately for all of us in my country, there isn't actually any obligation to play by the business's rules in a dispute if they're giving us the run-around.

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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I’ve tried to cancel my virgin media subscription twice (because it’s too expensive), and each time was upsold a more expensive package. I explained this to my wife, who laughed at me, then the same thing happened to her.

This made me laugh (sorry). How do they upsell without you realizing it?

IIRC Comcast also does this. They tell you your account is canceled and then you start getting charged extra. A facet of giving pay based upsell targets to desperate call center staff.

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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I’ve tried to cancel my virgin media subscription twice (because it’s too expensive), and each time was upsold a more expensive package. I explained this to my wife, who laughed at me, then the same thing happened to her.

I once downgraded my Virgin package, the online support was helpful and let me know which department to ask for and exactly what to request. Once on the phone I think I was forwarded on about 3 times before I got the right person. From that point on it was really painless. I think it took about 20 minutes in total? All I wanted to do was drop down to the lowest speed package and stop paying for the landline phone service I was never going to use.

I now have the opposite problem, I'd like to upgrade my package and get a higher uplink speed, but the website just throws a generic error if I try to view upgrades available to my account. I'm not bothered enough to pick up the phone yet.

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This made me laugh (sorry). How do they upsell without you realizing it?

IIRC Comcast also does this. They tell you your account is canceled and then you start getting charged extra. A facet of giving pay based upsell targets to desperate call center staff.

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Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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And this is why consumers like Apple’s iOS subscriptions.

This is why consumers like easily-cancelled subscriptions, which iOS implemented. It was important to implement easy cancellations on iOS to show how you can cancel any time so you're not being defrauded when small utilities, kids games etc discretely charge $500/year with Apple's approval. It's your fault for not canceling the subscription that costs 200x more than the app did last year.

https://mjtsai.com/blog/2019/07/12/predatory-ios-app-subscri...

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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Nothing is harder than cancelling internet service, with the possible exception of cancelling a gym membership.

In order to cancel Mediacom's 'service,' I had to send a letter[1] to them, with copies to their general counsel, threatening 99 kinds of lawsuit. I made the letter intentionally deranged, complete with footnotes about financial BDSM, to give them the impression that I would actually do it. They cancelled the account. It was pretty fun to ignore the panicked calls from their lawyers for a bit too.

Once I had to cancel an entire credit card to get out from under a gym membership.

[1] https://gowder.io/pgmediacom.pdf

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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We've tried to downgrade our Virgin Broadband but never managed to succeed no matter how many times we tried to call. They ask for some passwords, which they are suppose to send by mail but never send it; they ask to verify our identity but always find some reason why they couldn't verify (despite having full access to our account). Every time it's 15-20 min wait in the phone, every time different new BS from a different operator, it's quite infuriating.

Eventually, our contract expired and got auto-renewed to a more expensive one (because the one we were on didn't exist anymore). So every month we're paying for something we don't need, like TV etc, and we don't have a choice because there's only Virgin where we are.

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