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Australia says it's under nation-state cyberattack

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Re: Australia says it's under nation-state cyberattack

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is the UN Security Council going to do anything when China is one of its charter members? They can veto anything. Context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vetoed_United_Nations_...

By recognizing Taiwan as the defacto China

I don't quite follow. Would you please elucidate?

Re: Australia says it's under nation-state cyberattack

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Should the international laws be amended to consider state-led cyber attacks an act of war in additional to traditional aggression? Seems like UN Security Council should deal with these matters.

International law barely exists and is unenforceable. If a superpower--especially a permanent Security Council member--wants to do something, there's absolutely no recourse. Look at Russia and Crimea. That's the most egregious violation of the notion of international law in recent history, and nothing of consequence happened. The big powers can do whatever they want, and the worst response will be token economic sanctions. China is so economically intertwined with the world that nothing at all would happen unless they nuked someone.

Re: Australia says it's under nation-state cyberattack

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Not just cyber attack, Australia is also under economic attack [1] for the same reason. And China just suddenly decided to sentence an Australian to death (same move they made against Canada), after five years of sitting on the case [2]. It's all about intimidation and leverage. China will press until Australia capitulates. Fortunately the Australians have backbone.

As a superpower capable of standing off with China, the US should be stepping in and offering very public political and economic support to Australia. It's the only approach that will work when dealing with China's new era of extreme belligerence. If the US were currently being led by a wiser politician, they would be rallying allies old and new (such as India) at China's expense.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/may/21/austr...

[2] https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/13/china/australian-drug-smuggli...

Re: Australia says it's under nation-state cyberattack

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

By recognizing Taiwan as the defacto China

I don't quite follow. Would you please elucidate?

Taiwan and Mainland China both claim to be true China. Taiwan used to be on UN security council till it was ousted and replaced by PRC: http://www.ipsnews.net/2019/04/taiwan-still-permanent-member....

We just have to replace them again.

Re: Australia says it's under nation-state cyberattack

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Should the international laws be amended to consider state-led cyber attacks an act of war in additional to traditional aggression? Seems like UN Security Council should deal with these matters.

I thought cyber attacks generally were considered acts of war. But what are you going to do about it? Start shooting in China's general direction?

When Russia occupied Crimea, we introduced some half-assed trade sanctions for a little while.

Re: Australia says it's under nation-state cyberattack

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post #4

Should the international laws be amended to consider state-led cyber attacks an act of war in additional to traditional aggression? Seems like UN Security Council should deal with these matters.

Just cut the undersea cables from China, there has to be a time when the world says enough is enough

Re: Australia says it's under nation-state cyberattack

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Not just cyber attack, Australia is also under economic attack [1] for the same reason. And China just suddenly decided to sentence an Australian to death (same move they made against Canada), after five years of sitting on the case [2]. It's all about intimidation and leverage. China will press until Australia capitulates. Fortunately the Australians have backbone. As a superpower capable of standing off with China,…

Why is it the US' problem? If AUSTRALIA were currently being led by a wiser politician, or indeed had in the last .. 20 years .. been led by wise politicians .. it wouldn't be in this mess right now in the first place.

Its only because Australia kowtows with fluidity every time the US snaps its fingers that its in this mess right now. Australians need to stop being the lapdogs to the American empire, and start thinking about their own future. Australias future isn't white American: it is multi-cultural and mostly Asian.

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