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Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, including non-paying

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Re: Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, including non-paying

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Post by rootsudo »

fsflover wrote: post #6

"To make this possible, Free/Basic users seeking access to E2EE will participate in a one-time process that will prompt the user for additional pieces of information, such as verifying a phone number via a text message. Many leading companies perform similar steps on account creation to reduce the mass creation of abusive accounts." Perfect instrument to collect more personal data.

Zoom is evil.

Also, fun note - just noticed Eric Yuan posted that and also created Zoom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Yuan

Eric S. Yuan (Chinese: 袁征; pinyin: Yuán Zhēng; born 1970) is a Chinese-American billionaire businessman, and the CEO and founder of Zoom Video Communications, of which he owns 22%.

No wonder why they have to play party with CCP.

Re: Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, including non-paying

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Post by josephcsible »

rickyplouis wrote: post #3

Does end to end encryption help when it's known that much of the traffic is routed through China? Genuine question.

Yes. The whole point of end-to-end encryption is that your data is safe even when it goes through untrusted servers. (I know they might have a backdoor, or might screw it up somehow. But in principle, if they do it securely, then this holds.)

Re: Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, including non-paying

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Post by vulcan01 »

josephcsible wrote: post #14
rickyplouis wrote: post #3

Does end to end encryption help when it's known that much of the traffic is routed through China? Genuine question.

Yes. The whole point of end-to-end encryption is that your data is safe even when it goes through untrusted servers. (I know they might have a backdoor, or might screw it up somehow. But in principle, if they do it securely, then this holds.)

Is it possible for Zoom / the CCP to hold the encryption keys? That would make it insecure, right? (genuine question).

Re: Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, including non-paying

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Post by crazygringo »

rickyplouis wrote: post #3

Does end to end encryption help when it's known that much of the traffic is routed through China? Genuine question.

That's factually untrue, it's not "known".

To the contrary, you can pick the region for your servers, which presumably for 99% of people is precisely to avoid China:

https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2020/04/13/coming-april-18-co...

Re: Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, including non-paying

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Post by skrebbel »

rootsudo wrote: post #11
fsflover wrote: post #6

"To make this possible, Free/Basic users seeking access to E2EE will participate in a one-time process that will prompt the user for additional pieces of information, such as verifying a phone number via a text message. Many leading companies perform similar steps on account creation to reduce the mass creation of abusive accounts." Perfect instrument to collect more personal data.

Zoom is evil. Also, fun note - just noticed Eric Yuan posted that and also created Zoom. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Yuan Eric S. Yuan (Chinese: 袁征; pinyin: Yuán Zhēng; born 1970) is a Chinese-American billionaire businessman, and the CEO and founder of Zoom Video Communications, of which he owns 22%. No wonder why they have to play party with CCP.

Wait, your point is that Zoom is evil because the founder is Chinese?
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