'Quake III Arena' Bots Decide to Stop Fighting After 4-Year Match (2013) • Hacker News Board

Re: 'Quake III Arena' Bots Decide to Stop Fighting After 4-Year Match (2013)

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Post by Jaruzel » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 7:24 AM UTC

self_awareness wrote: post #9

"The only winning move is not to play" Too bad the story is made up, the author does reference Fox Mulder and the phrase "I want to believe".

> "The only winning move is not to play"

Exactly this. War Games showed this theorem back in 1983. I would hazard a guess that Joshua's statement inspired this 'fake' story.

Re: 'Quake III Arena' Bots Decide to Stop Fighting After 4-Year Match (2013)

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Post by antman » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 7:25 AM UTC

self_awareness wrote: post #9

"The only winning move is not to play" Too bad the story is made up, the author does reference Fox Mulder and the phrase "I want to believe".

“The only move is not to play” is from the 1983 movie “War games” whose theme is a kid hacks into a government computer that controls nuclear weapons, the computer almost starts a nuclear war but stops short after running simulated scenarios which all lead to total annihilation.

https://youtu.be/NHWjlCaIrQo it’s on the monitor at 3:40

Re: 'Quake III Arena' Bots Decide to Stop Fighting After 4-Year Match (2013)

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Post by ageitgey » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 7:33 AM UTC

If you read the image board thread the article links to, it's immediately obvious that this is 100% fake. The first line claims Quake III Arena (1999) is using neural networks for bot AI which is total nonsense.

Re: 'Quake III Arena' Bots Decide to Stop Fighting After 4-Year Match (2013)

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Post by mercer » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 11:08 AM UTC

self_awareness wrote: post #9

"The only winning move is not to play" Too bad the story is made up, the author does reference Fox Mulder and the phrase "I want to believe".

Reminds me of the Tetris AI that just paused the game so it wouldn't lose.