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Re: Android 11 beta is available now

#11
>More privacy improvements

But still no encrypted chat. It's cute watching the security theater out of Google. Security to them means "only WE get access to your data, and ALL of your data".

Re: Android 11 beta is available now

#13
post #5

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These are normal apps, unfortunately, crashing at or near startup. I believe that Google made some changes to JNI in Android 11 and most of the crashes are in native code.

I have never seen anything but a native crash for drm code issues. I would be willing to bet some type of drm is still the problem here.

Unfortunately based on some quick analysis it looks like there _was_ a change in JNI - previously JNI method handles were pointer-like and now they are opaque integers. Definitely not DRM in this case.

Apps crash in the default mode. Hacking the device so that SetJniType is called with kPointer makes it all work.

https://android.googlesource.com/platform/art/+/master/runti...

Re: Android 11 beta is available now

#15
post #6

But will my weather always show in the clock now instead of randomly? (The "At a glance that's on the homescreen, shows the date, weather, upcoming events etc. Frequently it just shows the date for me and drops weather info) And do we really need bubbles? Do people actually like those? I always found that annoying.

Android is customizable, you can put any weather widget you want, or completely swap the launcher too.

As for bubbles, I think they're also optional, though if it can merge conversations across multiple different apps seamlessly, I'm all for it.

Re: Android 11 beta is available now

#17
post #11

>More privacy improvements But still no encrypted chat. It's cute watching the security theater out of Google. Security to them means "only WE get access to your data, and ALL of your data".

Encrypted chat is an app, not an OS API.

I mean it could be part of the OS. It would be kind of cool if your OS could have an API to encrypt private user data with some key that only the other persons OS can decode.

Chat apps could then delegate security to the OS, rather than having to trust that the app developer has a security team that knows what they're doing.

You could even take it one step further and have the plaintext of the users messages secret from the app - the OS would draw them direct to the screen. A bit like opaque cross-origin data in webpages is secret from JavaScript on the page.

Re: Android 11 beta is available now

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Encrypted chat is an app, not an OS API.

I mean it could be part of the OS. It would be kind of cool if your OS could have an API to encrypt private user data with some key that only the other persons OS can decode. Chat apps could then delegate security to the OS, rather than having to trust that the app developer has a security team that knows what they're doing. You could even take it one step further and have the plaintext of the users messages secret f…

Why would you trust Google with that though?

Re: Android 11 beta is available now

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean it could be part of the OS. It would be kind of cool if your OS could have an API to encrypt private user data with some key that only the other persons OS can decode. Chat apps could then delegate security to the OS, rather than having to trust that the app developer has a security team that knows what they're doing. You could even take it one step further and have the plaintext of the users messages secret f…

Why would you trust Google with that though?

Right. Implementation of encryption is the easiest part to fuck up and/or backdoor.
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