Someone has to start and these few people are the ones raising their hand up. More will follow over time. I can imagine the current economic climate is probably restraining a lot of people right now. In that sense Zuckerberg has some time to fix it he wants to. But I would expect the voices to grow louder over time.
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#12Why don't they revolt by quitting? I know not every employee is able to do that but I'm guessing that at Facebook the vast majority could switch job fairly easily. Once Facebook realizes that they are losing good employees they are more likely to change those policies. Unfortunately most Facebook employees want to continue getting outrageously paid at the 95 percentile of the market and soft "revolting" without riski…
This is akin to saying “love the country or leave it”.
If people have the chance to openly disagree with leadership, they probably can try to effect change - quitting is just giving up and letting those in favor of the status quo to keep driving decisions as they already do?
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#13Why don't they revolt by quitting? I know not every employee is able to do that but I'm guessing that at Facebook the vast majority could switch job fairly easily. Once Facebook realizes that they are losing good employees they are more likely to change those policies. Unfortunately most Facebook employees want to continue getting outrageously paid at the 95 percentile of the market and soft "revolting" without riski…
I'm honestly not sure quitting is actually the most effective way to get what they want.
Managers and high profile people at companies like Facebook have a lot of leverage and can organise relatively easily because there's relatively few of them. The senior tech people and management need to recognise that they hold a ton of power because they basically run the place, their influence would be much better served by pressuring Facebook. It's Facebook who can't afford to lose them.
There needs to be some sort of class consciousness for the 'top 10% but not 0.1%'. They've got all the leverage in the world, and increasingly share no common ground with the owners of the business.
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#14Why don't they revolt by quitting? I know not every employee is able to do that but I'm guessing that at Facebook the vast majority could switch job fairly easily. Once Facebook realizes that they are losing good employees they are more likely to change those policies. Unfortunately most Facebook employees want to continue getting outrageously paid at the 95 percentile of the market and soft "revolting" without riski…
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#16I actually like Zuckerberg's response. I dont want tech companies being the arbiters of truth, leave that up to us to decide.
As far as 12 employees upset they are not getting their way, we all work in companies with people having differing opinions and perspectives. We can't force everyone to do as we feel and have to accept that we are going to have to work with other people and decisions may not fit our specific worldview.
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#17Why don't they revolt by quitting? I know not every employee is able to do that but I'm guessing that at Facebook the vast majority could switch job fairly easily. Once Facebook realizes that they are losing good employees they are more likely to change those policies. Unfortunately most Facebook employees want to continue getting outrageously paid at the 95 percentile of the market and soft "revolting" without riski…
The linked article does say that some are doing just that, or at least threatening to:
> Two senior Facebook employees told The New York Times that they had informed their managers that they would resign if Mr. Zuckerberg did not reverse his decision. Another person, who was supposed to start work at the company next month, told Facebook they were no longer willing to accept a position at the company because of Mr. Zuckerberg’s decision.
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#18One man's racism is another man's free speech.
Just like one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Facebook and the other SV tech companies have a clear political bias that often seems like selective and directed censorship.
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#19I'm confused why people that are anti-Trump don't wish his remarks, that they would presumably characterise as completely and unambiguously unacceptable, to face the scrutiny of the public to the fullest extent. Especially in an election year. It seems clearly in the public interest that this sort of speech by the president isn't censored and is discussed far and wide, and exposed to the light of day. The only reason I can think of for people wanting to suppress it is that they have such a low estimation of the average American, that they deem it simply too dangerous to be publicised. I must admit, I don't think any private business, or group of individuals, should make these sorts of judgements on behalf of an entire nation. The only way out of this crisis is by rapid and painful evolution, with the threat of failure real and ever-present. Coddling, control of information and censorship isn't the answer.
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#20Why is anyone inside facebook even surprised by this?
Facebook leadership has made their modus operandi well known. They will enable anyone or anything that makes them money.
I don't know why a long term employee would suddenly be offended after years of abhorrent behavior.