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How to Make this Moment the Turning Point for Real Change

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Re: How to Make this Moment the Turning Point for Real Change

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Post by klyrs »

HorizonXP wrote: post #4

META: Not sure why this was flagged/dead? I just vouched for it. Is it because it's political and not strictly about tech/hacker news? I'd argue that current events have a direct impact on all of us and this absolutely warrants discussion. Furthermore, I'm not sure I know of any instance where a President has disseminated writing like this. It's an interesting change, since it means that former Presidents can continu…

Jimmy Carter has done a lot since leaving office, as a diplomat and as an author. I think Bush I remained fairly politically active after leaving office, as well. Wikipedia has several articles about "post-presidency of [ex-prez]" but it's a very incomplete list.

Re: How to Make this Moment the Turning Point for Real Change

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Post by eanzenberg »

softwaredoug wrote: post #9

Are we headed for a system wide collapse (in the US, but perhaps elsewhere?). The current environment is one of crisis mounting on top of crisis, each with increasing urgency and each never getting solved. Just to count them - issues of executive power concentration (pre trump even..), now alongside corruption and ignoring rule of law - US overextended and largely illegitimately engaged militarily across the world -…

No, it’s just the media narrative you’re seeing. Not reality.

Re: How to Make this Moment the Turning Point for Real Change

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Post by softwaredoug »

eanzenberg wrote: post #12
softwaredoug wrote: post #9

Are we headed for a system wide collapse (in the US, but perhaps elsewhere?). The current environment is one of crisis mounting on top of crisis, each with increasing urgency and each never getting solved. Just to count them - issues of executive power concentration (pre trump even..), now alongside corruption and ignoring rule of law - US overextended and largely illegitimately engaged militarily across the world -…

No, it’s just the media narrative you’re seeing. Not reality.

Which parts are the media narrative?

The “imperial presidency” is part of an ongoing trend of increasing executive power for decades. High unemployment from Covid is objectively true. Ineffectiveness combating Covid at a Federal level is hard to debate...

Re: How to Make this Moment the Turning Point for Real Change

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Post by RcouF1uZ4gsC »

> So let’s not excuse violence, or rationalize it, or participate in it.

Taboos around violence for political are one of the crucial building blocks for a functioning democracy. If those taboos are broken, even for a good cause, you set a precedence that violence works. And the next cause won’t be as good. One only has to look at the lessons of the Roman Revolution that started with the murder of Grachus, and ended with an Emperor who everyone acclaimed as they were so tired of the bloodshed.

Re: How to Make this Moment the Turning Point for Real Change

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Post by augustt »

kindatrueyo wrote: post #16

"Yes we can" warmed up all-over again. Why is this on HN?

Because unfortunately, good leadership is so rare now that seeing it "gratifies one's intellectual curiosity". I myself just went through the five stages of grief realizing that we're supposed to have presidents that can write thoughtful articles, not all caps tweets.
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