Curious how local and state governments can face “fiscal chaos” while debt issues by the federal govt. is highly desirable. People say governments run deficits during economic downturns (which is true) but in the US local and state spending is more pro-cyclical.
San Francisco faces fiscal chaos
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Re: San Francisco faces fiscal chaos
#12I think a more accurate description would be that San Francisco chooses chaos. I've never lived anywhere more unreasonably governed. It's like the government is actively sabotaging quality of life and squandering its budget. One example--the city spent $15.5m to tear down a McDonalds in the Haight and turn it into a homeless tent camp.
Hmmm. There was a lot of local support for the city to get rid of that very-problematic McDonalds, as the police were being called there on an average of once per day over drug dealing, shootings, etc. And the lot is slated to be developed into high-density housing, which is typically a popular notion in the HN crowd. https://sf.curbed.com/2018/4/2/17188892/haight-steet-mcdonal...
>For some nearby residents, the decision was met with dismay and frustration and a feeling of futility after they had spent weeks pleading with Preston’s office to find an alternative, like parking lots owned by the school district or City College and even Recreation and Park Department property.
>“There are all of these large parking lots not being used that would be so much better than plopping this down in the middle of a residential area — an area we’ve struggled for decades to get control of on this end of Haight Street,” said Ted Loewenberg, president of the Haight-Ashbury Improvement Association.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/SF-to-open-sanct...
Re: San Francisco faces fiscal chaos
#13I think a more accurate description would be that San Francisco chooses chaos. I've never lived anywhere more unreasonably governed. It's like the government is actively sabotaging quality of life and squandering its budget. One example--the city spent $15.5m to tear down a McDonalds in the Haight and turn it into a homeless tent camp.
While I don’t disagree that SF is a mess, your example is completely wrong. That lot will become low-income housing and is temporarily being used as that. https://sfmohcd.org/730-stanyan
Re: San Francisco faces fiscal chaos
#14I think a more accurate description would be that San Francisco chooses chaos. I've never lived anywhere more unreasonably governed. It's like the government is actively sabotaging quality of life and squandering its budget. One example--the city spent $15.5m to tear down a McDonalds in the Haight and turn it into a homeless tent camp.
While I don’t disagree that SF is a mess, your example is completely wrong. That lot will become low-income housing and is temporarily being used as that. https://sfmohcd.org/730-stanyan
Re: San Francisco faces fiscal chaos
#15I think a more accurate description would be that San Francisco chooses chaos. I've never lived anywhere more unreasonably governed. It's like the government is actively sabotaging quality of life and squandering its budget. One example--the city spent $15.5m to tear down a McDonalds in the Haight and turn it into a homeless tent camp.
The McDonalds you refer to was a huge problem for a long time and right now the only argument is about exactly how big an apartment building to put there.
Re: San Francisco faces fiscal chaos
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I don’t disagree that SF is a mess, your example is completely wrong. That lot will become low-income housing and is temporarily being used as that. https://sfmohcd.org/730-stanyan
"Temporarily" according to who? And still $15.5m and $XXm still to be spent on the new development, and for now it's a massive tent camp---this is why SF has budget problems is my point. They're squandering the resources they have and not even solving the problems, they're actually making it worse in most cases. Tents tripled in the city in the last few months: https://abc7news.com/homeless-coronavirus-san-francisco-…
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#17San Fran is a bizarre place. I'm an Aussie, an Americanophile, and I was in the States for months last year. San Fran was simply unpleasant - the people were rude (young and old) and everything cost too much. The taxes were insane too. I couldn't bear to live there - Salt Lake City seemed to have the most similar upsides with next to none of the downsides.
There they have the sexy underwear in Utah. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_garment I used to live in the US, but I'm back home in Germany. I have 0 interest in going back.
Re: San Francisco faces fiscal chaos
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I don’t disagree that SF is a mess, your example is completely wrong. That lot will become low-income housing and is temporarily being used as that. https://sfmohcd.org/730-stanyan
"Temporarily" according to who? And still $15.5m and $XXm still to be spent on the new development, and for now it's a massive tent camp---this is why SF has budget problems is my point. They're squandering the resources they have and not even solving the problems, they're actually making it worse in most cases. Tents tripled in the city in the last few months: https://abc7news.com/homeless-coronavirus-san-francisco-…
Not sure if sf can legally just ship them to say Modesto where housing is cheaper
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#19New York budget crisis [0], Chicago [1], Dallas [2], etc
[0] https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/05/31/new-york-budget...
[1] https://www.wbez.org/amp/stories/how-covid-19-could-hit-chic...
[2] https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/dallas-budget-crisis-prese...
Re: San Francisco faces fiscal chaos
#20Curious how local and state governments can face “fiscal chaos” while debt issues by the federal govt. is highly desirable. People say governments run deficits during economic downturns (which is true) but in the US local and state spending is more pro-cyclical.
Cities can’t print money