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Is Facebook even safe anymore?

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Re: Is Facebook even safe anymore?

#11

It never was safe.

Perennial reminder of a conversation early on in Facebook's life:

> Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

> Zuck: Just ask.

> Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

> [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?

> Zuck: People just submitted it.

> Zuck: I don't know why.

> Zuck: They "trust me"

> Zuck: Dumb fucks.

Re: Is Facebook even safe anymore?

#12
Facebook has information as a business model.

It could be improved, like the user having the real ownership of all personal data and with confirmation to where, to whom and when delivering it.

But, for real, will those changes please their investors?

Re: Is Facebook even safe anymore?

#13
post #8

Meh. Email address, date of birth, names, phone numbers aren’t private. Some of these we even willingly disseminate publicly. If these pieces of data are used for authentication for some other service ( cough healthcare), that is a flaw elsewhere - not with Facebook. If we are gonna be upset about this we should still be upset about Equifax, which we totally forgot, didn’t we? I’m now under the assumption that some k…

we should still be upset about Equifax, which we totally forgot, didn’t we

By any reasonable definition Equifax got away with it Scot free. No one is expending any energy getting angry about it because it has been repeatedly demonstrated that regulators don’t care about data breaches so what can you do?

No company is going to care about this until C-suites and boards start going to jail.

Re: Is Facebook even safe anymore?

#14
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Despite all that, Japanese IT data security is a joke though. They all talk the talk here but most systems I've seen are held together by sticks and glue on the backend. If I didn't live here I wouldn't dream of giving my data to a Japanese firm.

...sony...

Your point being?

Re: Is Facebook even safe anymore?

#15
post #5
post #3

Working in Japan security breaches can and do happen, but when they do the government has the ability to fine said corporation or even force them to cease offering services for a period of time. I get the distinct impression that US companies largely face no consequences for data breaches and when they do it's fines that equate to less than a percent of their annual profits. Unless something changes there is very lit…

Despite all that, Japanese IT data security is a joke though. They all talk the talk here but most systems I've seen are held together by sticks and glue on the backend. If I didn't live here I wouldn't dream of giving my data to a Japanese firm.

> but most systems I've seen are held together by sticks and glue on the backend.

I'm pretty sure that's - unfortunately - true for a lot of backends and not a Japanese phenomena.

Re: Is Facebook even safe anymore?

#16
Do people really hate FB so much right now that this garbage becomes the top article on HN?

This website[1] seems to be entirely blank aside from this article, the claims made are dubious at best and essentially unsourced, and the alleged "breaches" discussed seem to all just be dumps of easily scrapable data or things third-party developers (not FB) left lying around. There's zero evidence whatsoever of actual breaches of FB servers here, which would be a major story covered by far more reputable sources were it true.

As far as I can best see, this is trying to sell people on VPN services for which the author gets a commission, given the embedded link to a "best VPNs" site...

[1] https://privacytips.jimdofree.com/

Re: Is Facebook even safe anymore?

#18
The irony is that Hacker News is literally unsafe to use as it puts users at risk of doxxing by not providing basic privacy functions like post and/or account deletion or even the ability to change your username. I really don’t understand why the HN crowd (which claims to be privacy focused) never seems to call this site out on that. Did I miss the text when you sign up telling you that everything you post will be publicly accessible for the rest of time? Is there even a mention of it anywhere?

To answer the original question though, no Facebook isn’t safe and never was. Delete your account. I did four years ago and I’ve never missed it.

Re: Is Facebook even safe anymore?

#19
post #18

The irony is that Hacker News is literally unsafe to use as it puts users at risk of doxxing by not providing basic privacy functions like post and/or account deletion or even the ability to change your username. I really don’t understand why the HN crowd (which claims to be privacy focused) never seems to call this site out on that. Did I miss the text when you sign up telling you that everything you post will be pu…

>Did I miss the text when you sign up telling you that everything you post will be publicly accessible for the rest of time

While reasonable people can disagree on this point, it seems a valid point of view that once you've publicly posted something that's part of an online conversation you can no longer unilaterally delete it.

Re: Is Facebook even safe anymore?

#20
post #16

Do people really hate FB so much right now that this garbage becomes the top article on HN? This website[1] seems to be entirely blank aside from this article, the claims made are dubious at best and essentially unsourced, and the alleged "breaches" discussed seem to all just be dumps of easily scrapable data or things third-party developers (not FB) left lying around. There's zero evidence whatsoever of actual breac…

It's because it's such a highly controversial subject. I completely agree there's good and bad on Facebook, but overall feel like it nets out positive.
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