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Alameda County agrees to let Tesla reopen if certain conditions are met

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Re: Alameda County agrees to let Tesla reopen if certain conditions are met

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Post by aidenn0 »

eganist wrote: post #8

There's an amazing amount of emphasis in these comments on strict adhesion to the law and not enough on the actual risk of harm if the site continues to go about reopening. Honestly, if a company wants to disobey a government edict that's for the good of the people when there's no law to back it up, so be it; I hope the people and estates of those who are injured or killed can use the judiciary to sufficient ends to…

I think it was more of the bad-look that Tesla was negotiating with the county about reopening, and then with little warning seemed to "go rogue." The date that was under discussion for reopening is in-line with Michigan manufacturers. From 10,000 feet it just looks like Musk throwing a tantrum.

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Post by KKKKkkkk1 »

Is there a risk that Tesla's factory opening will spark a COVID outbreak? Is there any personal or financial risk for Elon in the case of such an outbreak? How would the answers to these questions influence your decisions if you were Elon?

Re: Alameda County agrees to let Tesla reopen if certain conditions are met

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Post by kanox »

KKKKkkkk1 wrote: post #12

Is there a risk that Tesla's factory opening will spark a COVID outbreak? Is there any personal or financial risk for Elon in the case of such an outbreak? How would the answers to these questions influence your decisions if you were Elon?

There are several other Tesla factories that were already open and SpaceX never closed. Their claim that manufacturing is relatively low risk seems credible.

Re: Alameda County agrees to let Tesla reopen if certain conditions are met

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Post by 101404 »

rsj_hn wrote: post #4

I was really looking forward to the court challenges on this one, and am a bit disappointed the county caved. Bottom line, we have local officials making decrees and proclamations with no legislative basis -- often the legislature is not even in session as one proclamation is made after another -- and they are curtailing things like right to assemble, right to hold religious services, and interstate commerce. This ne…

And large part of the population seems all too willing to just follow these local officials and blindly believe anything they say. And those who dare to challenge them get insulted.

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Post by callalex »

101404 wrote: post #14
rsj_hn wrote: post #4

I was really looking forward to the court challenges on this one, and am a bit disappointed the county caved. Bottom line, we have local officials making decrees and proclamations with no legislative basis -- often the legislature is not even in session as one proclamation is made after another -- and they are curtailing things like right to assemble, right to hold religious services, and interstate commerce. This ne…

And large part of the population seems all too willing to just follow these local officials and blindly believe anything they say. And those who dare to challenge them get insulted.

If you want to act in an anti-social manner, don’t be surprised when you are socially ostracized.

Re: Alameda County agrees to let Tesla reopen if certain conditions are met

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Post by TomMarius »

woofyman wrote: post #7
rsj_hn wrote: post #4

I was really looking forward to the court challenges on this one, and am a bit disappointed the county caved. Bottom line, we have local officials making decrees and proclamations with no legislative basis -- often the legislature is not even in session as one proclamation is made after another -- and they are curtailing things like right to assemble, right to hold religious services, and interstate commerce. This ne…

> Most of them can easily hide in luxurious compounds and aren't impacted nearly as much as those dependent on a regular income So they want other people to risk their lives to make more billions for them.

You know they could walk out any day and start earning the billions if they really have the ability? We are not talking about low income people.

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Post by 101404 »

callalex wrote: post #17
101404 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And large part of the population seems all too willing to just follow these local officials and blindly believe anything they say. And those who dare to challenge them get insulted.

If you want to act in an anti-social manner, don’t be surprised when you are socially ostracized.

What is "anti social" about defending human rights against those who think they stand above them?

Re: Alameda County agrees to let Tesla reopen if certain conditions are met

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Post by netsharc »

101404 wrote: post #19
callalex wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to act in an anti-social manner, don’t be surprised when you are socially ostracized.

What is "anti social" about defending human rights against those who think they stand above them?

Gotta love assholes thinking they know better than scientists, and then claiming "we're defending human rights!".

Using this Asimov quote is surely a cliché, but "Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'".

Feel free to scream that you're right and I'm wrong...

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