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Re: Debian 10.4

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As a relative Linux newbie, who's running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on two laptops at home, would there be any advantages to Debian 10.4 over Ubuntu 20.04? (I assume at least some of that answer would depend on my use cases and hardware, but if you have general insights to the differences, some of us might find that useful!)

No ads in your MOTD

Re: Debian 10.4

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post #2

What would I do without you, Debian? Thanks team for all the work, if you happen to see this. It is very appreciated.

For me it was: Redhat-> Slackware -> FreeBSD -> Debian I should probably donate

Fedora -> OpenSUSE -> Ubuntu -> Debian here :P

Re: Debian 10.4

#13

As a relative Linux newbie, who's running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on two laptops at home, would there be any advantages to Debian 10.4 over Ubuntu 20.04? (I assume at least some of that answer would depend on my use cases and hardware, but if you have general insights to the differences, some of us might find that useful!)

Well the packages in Ubuntu are newer than those in Debian 10. Ubuntu also makes some usability upgrades to GNOME that Debian doesn't out of the box.

One nice thing about Debian is they don't try to push snaps on you. Nowadays you can also use Flatpak get get more up to date apps on it.

Re: Debian 10.4

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post #11

As a relative Linux newbie, who's running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on two laptops at home, would there be any advantages to Debian 10.4 over Ubuntu 20.04? (I assume at least some of that answer would depend on my use cases and hardware, but if you have general insights to the differences, some of us might find that useful!)

No ads in your MOTD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motd_(Unix)

Never heard of MOTD before. I'll keep an eye out for it since I haven't encountered it yet (as a newb!)

Presumably getting ads is pretty annoying!

Re: Debian 10.4

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The first Debian release I used was slink (released March 1999). I stopped using debian on most of my personal machines when they switched to systemd. This is because a few of them refused to boot or exhibited strange init related bugs after the switch.

My first Debian was also Slink, installed from a box of floppies onto a 486. Had to use rawrite to put the disk image onto the floppies. That box of floppies is still around here somewhere, though the 486 is long gone.

Re: Debian 10.4

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Younglings... 0.93r5

We can play this game, I started on Linux with 0.99pl15 but I can pretty much guarantee you given this place someone will show up within an hour who got on the train in '92 and within a day someone who did in '91. Related: on the occassion of Little Richard dying I have reflected on how every Beatles album was released closer to World War I than today. (Almost, Abbey Road needs a few more months, it'll be true on Aug…

/me waves

I remember the arrival of Linux.

I'm not even all that old, but time sure does fly.

Re: Debian 10.4

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post #11

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No ads in your MOTD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motd_(Unix) Never heard of MOTD before. I'll keep an eye out for it since I haven't encountered it yet (as a newb!) Presumably getting ads is pretty annoying!

It is, and it's one of the more annoying MOTDs I've encountered. You won't see it unless you get rid of the login manager and login at the terminal. Or, use the server edition.

Re: Debian 10.4

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post #13

As a relative Linux newbie, who's running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on two laptops at home, would there be any advantages to Debian 10.4 over Ubuntu 20.04? (I assume at least some of that answer would depend on my use cases and hardware, but if you have general insights to the differences, some of us might find that useful!)

Well the packages in Ubuntu are newer than those in Debian 10. Ubuntu also makes some usability upgrades to GNOME that Debian doesn't out of the box. One nice thing about Debian is they don't try to push snaps on you. Nowadays you can also use Flatpak get get more up to date apps on it.

That's about right.

Debian's packages are generally older and more thoroughly tested. Debian also didn't customize things as much as Ubuntu does, so the software you get is much closer to what the "upstream" projects originally released.

Debian is famous both for having extended support for all releases, and for obsessive attention to seamless upgrade-in-place support. Some people will keep a single Debian install running for a decade, upgrading as they go without ever reinstalling.

Ubuntu is fantastic if you want a user-friendly desktop system out of the box. Debian is really nice for systems that you want to run with minimal maintenance for years at a time.

Re: Debian 10.4

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post #2

What would I do without you, Debian? Thanks team for all the work, if you happen to see this. It is very appreciated.

For me it was: Redhat-> Slackware -> FreeBSD -> Debian I should probably donate

Take a look at the website for Debian's parent organization, Software In The Public Interest, and see all the projects they are responsible for: https://www.spi-inc.org/projects/

Contributing is not a bad idea.

Re: Debian 10.4

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motd_(Unix) Never heard of MOTD before. I'll keep an eye out for it since I haven't encountered it yet (as a newb!) Presumably getting ads is pretty annoying!

It is, and it's one of the more annoying MOTDs I've encountered. You won't see it unless you get rid of the login manager and login at the terminal. Or, use the server edition.

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