James Damore and three others end Google suit
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#12Damore does not fit into the neat ideological right or left classification but it would be impossible for an institution like Bloomberg to have nuance on this issue. Just because some deplorable lifted him up doesn't mean he should be defined specifically on an ideological axis.
But, of course, who gives a fuck. The rage machine rages on.
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#13It was a joint request to dismiss with no further comment, ie, almost certainly a settlement & a nondisclosure agreement.
Probably not much, court costs and some attorney's fees. They weren't winning.
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#15I think conversations can be had with people like him, instead of taking the worst part of their views and ostracizing them for it. I think it is fine to acknowledge angst in the implementation of progressive ideals, that angst will often be mixed in with purely insensitive and uneducated thoughts. There are productive outcomes possible by parsing and separating those issues. I think it has been a big mistake of tech…
Except this wasn’t a conversation between people. It was an email blast nobody asked for or opted into.
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#16I remember at a previous job, a female engineer talking to other engineers when the Damore story broke. She said "I can't believe he said that women can't be good engineers" and indicated he deserved to be fired. As someone who actually read what he wrote, I just had to bite my tongue. That's not what he said at all, but even making the distinction makes you one of "them" and politicizes the workplace. It's just disappointing that these little whirlwinds of misinformation bullshit get to circle around and everybody just has to nod their heads.
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#17Damore does not fit into the neat ideological right or left classification but it would be impossible for an institution like Bloomberg to have nuance on this issue. Just because some deplorable lifted him up doesn't mean he should be defined specifically on an ideological axis. But, of course, who gives a fuck. The rage machine rages on.
But he did become an alt-right / Fox News / conservative machine darling.
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#18I think conversations can be had with people like him, instead of taking the worst part of their views and ostracizing them for it. I think it is fine to acknowledge angst in the implementation of progressive ideals, that angst will often be mixed in with purely insensitive and uneducated thoughts. There are productive outcomes possible by parsing and separating those issues. I think it has been a big mistake of tech…
Agreed.
Even beyond that there is this desire for people to note something is wrong with how someone said it, spelling or just about anything....and that is used in place of actually discussing the topic.
Nobody cares what anyone actually means it seems. They'd rather bicker about the minutia around it to discount whatever anyone said.
I've been told by other people on the internet what I really meant when I said a thing, told them that isn't what I think...and have them tell me again that I think that thing.
It can be surreal.
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#19I think conversations can be had with people like him, instead of taking the worst part of their views and ostracizing them for it. I think it is fine to acknowledge angst in the implementation of progressive ideals, that angst will often be mixed in with purely insensitive and uneducated thoughts. There are productive outcomes possible by parsing and separating those issues. I think it has been a big mistake of tech…
Not that you're wrong, but this sort of presumes that no conversation was had or attempted. It doesn't seem likely to me that this is so. It sounded to me at the time (if I remember correctly) as if there was a conversation, it broke down, and Damore's response was the document we all saw.
It feels more like he simply didn't like the way the conversation was going.
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#20Damore does not fit into the neat ideological right or left classification but it would be impossible for an institution like Bloomberg to have nuance on this issue. Just because some deplorable lifted him up doesn't mean he should be defined specifically on an ideological axis. But, of course, who gives a fuck. The rage machine rages on.
Do we know his politics to say he is or isn't a thing?
I think the story just notes that he got a lot of positive attention from some specific groups.