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Wanna Do Business in Pyongyang? Call Alejandro Cao de Benós

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#11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 2nd largest company on the Fortune 500 has its executives doing major business with a government that dismembers Washington Post employees in foreign embassies. In fact, US defense contractors were profiting off their slaughter of Yemenis until recently. The attempts to look abroad and decide to find someone to find fault with is risible.

Is this something other than "America bad"? What do US defense contractors have to do with any of this?

It's pointing out that there's no shortage of legitimate businesses that ignore or deny uncomfortable facts about the people they are working with.

Re: Wanna Do Business in Pyongyang? Call Alejandro Cao de Benós

#14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 2nd largest company on the Fortune 500 has its executives doing major business with a government that dismembers Washington Post employees in foreign embassies. In fact, US defense contractors were profiting off their slaughter of Yemenis until recently. The attempts to look abroad and decide to find someone to find fault with is risible.

Is this something other than "America bad"? What do US defense contractors have to do with any of this?

The web site this comes from is named for someone who said about Israeld killing of hundreds of children in Gaza bombings "Israel cannot have a proportional response" against the Palestinians.

Re: Wanna Do Business in Pyongyang? Call Alejandro Cao de Benós

#15
post #6

paywall :(

If you have Firefox, open Reader View (CTRL+ALT+R) and reload. (Assuming it's the same issue I had, viewing in a private window.)

Or disable JS, e.g. the button in uBlock. That disables images as well, which is mostly a downside.

Re: Wanna Do Business in Pyongyang? Call Alejandro Cao de Benós

#17

“He rejects all questions about extrajudicial killings or humanitarian atrocities as propaganda: “The media is often reporting that we execute people, which is not true,” he claims.” Interesting article. I often wonder about the mindset of people who deny the obvious facts. Does he really believe it or is he just cynical?

> Does he really believe it or is he just cynical Neither, IMO. From observing him over the years, he knows what's good for him, and he knows how to get a good vibe going with others at the same time. The vibe can make anything true or false and is not known for being concerned with moral true/false questions, which get into subjective (qualitative) ethics. (You can argue that those same ethics prevent reasonably hel…

It’s probably like being an ambassador from a country with lots of controversy around human rights and so on and they get interviewed when something big hits the news. It’s not like they don’t know what happens but it’s in their and their countries’ interest to see things differently.

Re: Wanna Do Business in Pyongyang? Call Alejandro Cao de Benós

#18

“He rejects all questions about extrajudicial killings or humanitarian atrocities as propaganda: “The media is often reporting that we execute people, which is not true,” he claims.” Interesting article. I often wonder about the mindset of people who deny the obvious facts. Does he really believe it or is he just cynical?

Does it matter if he believes it? What matters are his actions.

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#19
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Does he really believe it or is he just cynical Neither, IMO. From observing him over the years, he knows what's good for him, and he knows how to get a good vibe going with others at the same time. The vibe can make anything true or false and is not known for being concerned with moral true/false questions, which get into subjective (qualitative) ethics. (You can argue that those same ethics prevent reasonably hel…

It’s probably like being an ambassador from a country with lots of controversy around human rights and so on and they get interviewed when something big hits the news. It’s not like they don’t know what happens but it’s in their and their countries’ interest to see things differently.

Probably this. No atrocities committed by any government were done because the government viewed itself as 'evil' so it must do evil things, the perpetrators always view their crimes as justified for some form of greater good. If one believes a single lie is just a single stepping stone on the path to some grand utopia, or if that lie would prevent some chaos (social disorder, rebellion, etc), some will have no problems telling that lie as many times as they need to.
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