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San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate

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Re: San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate

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Post by thrownaway954 »

exhilaration wrote: post #2

Per the article, this is based on an analysis of 1,200 searches done on their platform. It seems like a stretch to use those figures to reach conclusions for a city of over 800,000 residents.

came hear to say the same thing. the submitter should not have used a over exaggerated title. 1200 people is not an "Unprecedented Rate".

Re: San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate

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Post by fosk »

> But there are many reasons why the region could finally be experiencing a shrinking population:

And yet the author is missing the elephant in the room: the incredibly deteriorating living conditions in a city crammed with drug addicts, human feces and casual violent aggressions at all hours of the day. A city that enables the "homeless lifestyle" without any accountability. Homelessness is - for the most part in San Francisco - a choice and/or a result of mental illness and drug addiction.

There is of course a certain amount of people that do become homeless because of lack of housing, but for the most part the city administration has been gaslighting us on the real causes: drug addiction and homeless lifestyle.

Most of them are not even native from San Francisco, but they come from elsewhere. I suggest everybody reads this article to learn more about the long history of criminality in San Francisco, enabled by the city officials: https://www.city-journal.org/san-francisco-homelessness

Edit: Everybody in San Francisco talks about the rights of the homeless, but where are my rights as a lawful tax payer who cannot bring his son to the park without risking his life by stepping on a needle?

Re: San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate

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Post by _jal »

exhilaration wrote: post #2

Per the article, this is based on an analysis of 1,200 searches done on their platform. It seems like a stretch to use those figures to reach conclusions for a city of over 800,000 residents.

The traditional signal is when U-Haul starts having logistics problems getting trucks back to the City.

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Post by everlost »

bernardom wrote: post #10
HenryKissinger wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where are you going?

New York area. It's expensive, but it's where family is. I wouldn't be surprised if COVID pushes a lot of people to be nearer family.

But why move from one COVID prone location to another?

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Post by blakesterz »

Interesting to see Columbus (I'm assuming OH) on that top 5 list. That means about 60 people were looking at moving to Columbus I guess? The other cities made sense to me, but Columbus was a stand out. The others just seemed like cities people looking to leave SF that would use movebuddah would be looking at.

I think it's still a major test market because it has the perfect demographics for that kind of thing.

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Post by opportune »

MattGaiser wrote: post #5

A friend considered it after graduation. 3500 a month for a place in rent. Eventually even with tech salaries that doesn’t make sense. He went to Seattle.

Should note that's basically the price for a full 1b to yourself in a nice and convenient area in the city. Most people who move here after graduation are probably paying closer to half that due to living with roommates/not in the super convenient and expensive areas.

Re: San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate

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Post by MattGaiser »

lxe wrote: post #12

How does this compare to MoveBuddha's "regular" numbers? Maybe only the people who're moving out of SF are using MoveBuddha? It's an interesting insight, but I think there's a high chance it doesn't reflect the situation at large.

> To put this into perspective, during the same period last year, there were 980 move searches involving the Bay Area on our moving cost calculator. Of those 980 requests, 57% were for outbound moves and 43% were for moves into the Bay Area. This is typical for any major city that has a lot of people coming in and out at any given time.

> But what we’re currently seeing is an incredible 90% of move searches involving the Bay Area are current residents looking to leave and only 10% are people looking to move into the region. That’s a very different picture from just last year.

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