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Wealth Inequalities Shown to the Scale

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“Around 800 children will die of malaria today. A small group of super rich people could stop it for a sum of money so small that they would likely never even notice its absence. But they choose not to.” Brutal. The theoretical appeal of capitalism is that it allocates resources efficiently, is it not? Can someone explain to me how letting all these children die of malaria is efficient, given the cost/benefit of elim…

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Re: Wealth Inequalities Shown to the Scale

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Looking at the scale is kind of interesting, but what we really need is more information about options for making things more equal in terms of their relative effectiveness and trade offs. America used to have 90% income tax on the richest. At some level that kind of worked, but it also led to a shell game where executives drove company cars to company condos and so on. Agreeing on reasonable taxation and enforcement could go a long way but we keep on minimizing land value taxation and other such alternatives.

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Feels like the author keeps making this point over and over that if we could just take x million from these people we could fix so many things. But I don’t see any vision painted for this new world where now everything is OK and fair. Maybe the current system we got is what makes people build things like amazon. Maybe jeff gets to be proud of his wealth and makes his own philanthropy choices.

What’s mind-boggling is that Bezos is still a billionaire after all of the suggested changes. The amount this affects his day-to-day life is slim to none. He’d still get to be proud of his wealth in the new system!

I have a hard time feeling like large-scale preventable deaths of six figures of real human children is worth Jeff Bezos’ warm tummy fuzzies he gets when he thinks about being unfathomably rich. Instead of thinking about whether innovations like Amazon would have materialized in this brave new world where people can actually get their malaria treated and have access to clean drinking water, consider: how many people might have made something just as game-changing as Amazon, but died a preventable death, or lived on, but weren’t given the same resources to survive and thrive as someone like Bezos?

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It's in the interest of the super-rich to advocate for a strong social safety net to prevent millions of hungry people with nothing to lose from taking what they need instead of waiting for it to be shared. ...at least until they can build a colony on Mars or something?

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post #13

Feels like the author keeps making this point over and over that if we could just take x million from these people we could fix so many things. But I don’t see any vision painted for this new world where now everything is OK and fair. Maybe the current system we got is what makes people build things like amazon. Maybe jeff gets to be proud of his wealth and makes his own philanthropy choices.

What’s mind-boggling is that Bezos is still a billionaire after all of the suggested changes. The amount this affects his day-to-day life is slim to none. He’d still get to be proud of his wealth in the new system! I have a hard time feeling like large-scale preventable deaths of six figures of real human children is worth Jeff Bezos’ warm tummy fuzzies he gets when he thinks about being unfathomably rich. Instead of…

i think what you are missing is it's a game of "whack a mole" way more than a game of a perfect puzzle where if you just do the ethical thing, and just be nice, and cure this and stop that, THEN, THEN everything will be... ok. But the reality is you plow 2 billion dollars into fixing one thing and this displaces something else and you can't get to this desert mirage utopia society we think we see just down the road if we could just get people like Jeff to fork it over.

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Couple of issues I have when I see such graphs or scale of inequality. I'm referring to those wealthy people who want to use their good fortune for benefit of society, not all of them.

1. Usually these comparisons imply that the super rich have a major chunk of their wealth sitting as cold hard cash. That's hardly the case. Most of the wealth is in assets or illiquid forms. Take Bezos for ex, a good chunk of his wealth is in AMZN stock. If he sells all of it to fund a philanthropic scheme, that'd trigger a massive selloff in the stock market and impact a lot of people negatively. Not saying that they're helpless, but I think they may be doing some good with all the excess cash that we may not be aware of.

2. From a logistics point of view, it's hard to ensure that money intended to help someone reaches them. Unless you are personally delivering the money, there'll be middle men who take their cut. If a billionaire decides to spend a billion dollars on charity, I'd think a bunch of orgs would want that money, to do charity as well as run their non-profit operation. Which would make it appear that not enough is being done by the billionaire, when it is employing a few and benefiting some more.

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It's in the interest of the super-rich to advocate for a strong social safety net to prevent millions of hungry people with nothing to lose from taking what they need instead of waiting for it to be shared. ...at least until they can build a colony on Mars or something?

It's not clear to me why this is actually true. Food is cheap if you don't waste a bunch of time on anti-science regulations like the EU. California and New York aren't short on space, building is simply heavily regulated with anti-poor laws masquerading as environmentalism because people would rather protect their swamps and property values than see a construction boom. Water isn't scarce, if it was you wouldn't have booming agricultural industries in drought prone regions. And electricity is only expensive because people would rather tear down oil, nat gas, and nuclear now rather than after green energy has become not terrible. The idea that society isn't thriving because the billionaire class has most of the wealth ignores that in many developed countries the cost of living could be much lower if not for the regulatory environment. People have simply been convinced that there are more important issues than helping the poor.

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This is often the problem I see with people mixing up Wealth and Income. A person with $100K income could also have millions of wealth or asset from stocks to property. Jeff Bezos has most of this wealth from Stocks. And I am willing to bet $100 given the current market cap and PE or PEG, his resignation from the company and liquidations of his Amazon Asset will trigger a sell off that its value differs quite a lot to his current value.

Someone might as well set up a gaming site called How to Become A Billionaire. Simply paid the cheapest amount of money to set a a company somewhere, issues a billion shares and get someone to buy one share for a dollar.

While I do agree on the world in large has inequality problem. Focusing on the ultra rich doesn't fix it.

Re: Wealth Inequalities Shown to the Scale

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post #18

This is often the problem I see with people mixing up Wealth and Income . A person with $100K income could also have millions of wealth or asset from stocks to property. Jeff Bezos has most of this wealth from Stocks. And I am willing to bet $100 given the current market cap and PE or PEG, his resignation from the company and liquidations of his Amazon Asset will trigger a sell off that its value differs quite a lot…

You gotta wonder about the morality of a society that allows a person to amass 40,000 lifetimes of wealth and lets others starve. The ultra rich are a mathematical anomaly that exposes what a sham this "meritocracy" is. It is physically impossible to create $140 billion dollars of actual value for people in a single human lifetime (2.5 billion seconds). The only way is the amplification and exponentiation of that work through millions of other people, and to make the incremental cost of adding that value essentially zero. Which means that the market has absolutely failed to price the "goods" created by these people according to their incremental cost.

Re: Wealth Inequalities Shown to the Scale

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Feels like the author keeps making this point over and over that if we could just take x million from these people we could fix so many things. But I don’t see any vision painted for this new world where now everything is OK and fair. Maybe the current system we got is what makes people build things like amazon. Maybe jeff gets to be proud of his wealth and makes his own philanthropy choices.

The biggest problem society faces right now is not how an individual gets from $1 billion net worth to $10 billion net worth, or $100 billion.
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