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Re: Covid-19 and HIV: Follow Me Down the Rabbit Hole

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Post by sarahnadav »

gus_massa wrote: post #10
sarahnadav wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ya, that is noted in the post. Otherwise, it would be hard to imagine how HIV gene sequences would get in the mix. Unless perhaps there was a monkey involved...which seems less likely than this coming out of a lab

Do you have a link about the HIV gene sequences? I remember a preprint that claimed that, but the sequence were very short, not whole genes. Two where 6 amino acid long and the other where not exact matches, but a small matech nearby a small match. For an analogy, let's imagine that the genome of the virus were a short esay, and the whole genes were sentences. It is like claiming plagirism, because two persons use th…

I don't have links about the HIV gene sequence but in the post I put every primary research article I could find about COVID-19 and HIV or T-Cells.

COVID-19 is bonding to T-cells and killing them, in a way that is similar to HIV but not exactly the same

Re: Covid-19 and HIV: Follow Me Down the Rabbit Hole

#12

Post by gus_massa »

sarahnadav wrote: post #11
gus_massa wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a link about the HIV gene sequences? I remember a preprint that claimed that, but the sequence were very short, not whole genes. Two where 6 amino acid long and the other where not exact matches, but a small matech nearby a small match. For an analogy, let's imagine that the genome of the virus were a short esay, and the whole genes were sentences. It is like claiming plagirism, because two persons use th…

I don't have links about the HIV gene sequence but in the post I put every primary research article I could find about COVID-19 and HIV or T-Cells. COVID-19 is bonding to T-cells and killing them, in a way that is similar to HIV but not exactly the same

It is the last article linked Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag

The important part is in Table 1. If you take a look at the coincidences, the first two are equal but very short. The third one has a hole and it has a few differences

  RSYL---TPGDSSSG
  RTYLFNETRGNSSSG
The fourth one has also a big hole, but they are using another strain of the virus. This article has a more detailed analysis https://theprepared.com/blog/no-the-2019-ncov-genome-doesnt-...

Re: Covid-19 and HIV: Follow Me Down the Rabbit Hole

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Post by sarahnadav »

gus_massa wrote: post #12
sarahnadav wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have links about the HIV gene sequence but in the post I put every primary research article I could find about COVID-19 and HIV or T-Cells. COVID-19 is bonding to T-cells and killing them, in a way that is similar to HIV but not exactly the same

It is the last article linked Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag The important part is in Table 1. If you take a look at the coincidences, the first two are equal but very short. The third one has a hole and it has a few differences RSYL---TPGDSSSG RTYLFNETRGNSSSG The fourth one has also a big hole, but they are using another strain of the virus. This article ha…

I included that study but it was retracted later. I believe that it is still valuable in the context of the bigger picture of research and the conversation on the subject.

There is other peer-reviewed research which is included

Re: Covid-19 and HIV: Follow Me Down the Rabbit Hole

#14

Post by vixen99 »

vixen99 wrote: post #4

If the argument is a powerful one and immensely significant if it's valid, then presumably it'll get wider coverage than in a publication for which one has to sign up (no complaint about that but I prefer not to). Any suggestions as to where it can found in another context?

The responses here will be useful sources for many of us. Thanks!

Re: Covid-19 and HIV: Follow Me Down the Rabbit Hole

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Post by dodgyb »

sarahnadav wrote: post #7
vixen99 wrote: post #4

If the argument is a powerful one and immensely significant if it's valid, then presumably it'll get wider coverage than in a publication for which one has to sign up (no complaint about that but I prefer not to). Any suggestions as to where it can found in another context?

This was a quick write up of what I've discovered over the past week. It actually came out of research for an economic theory I was writing for the World Economic Forum. It is not a definitive argument of any kind. You can read it through this free link https://medium.com/@sarahnadav/covid-19-hiv-follow-me-down-t...

This is more than a rabbit warren Sarah...

A quote from a peer reviewed paper by Shi Zhengli the 'Chinese Bat Lady' on how she combined SARS and HIV

"we investigated the receptor usage of the SL-CoV S by combining a human immunodeficiency virus-based pseudovirus system with cell lines expressing the ACE2 molecules of human, civet, or horseshoe bat"

https://project-evidence.github.io/#%28part._p1%29

Re: Covid-19 and HIV: Follow Me Down the Rabbit Hole

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Post by gus_massa »

sarahnadav wrote: post #13
gus_massa wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is the last article linked Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag The important part is in Table 1. If you take a look at the coincidences, the first two are equal but very short. The third one has a hole and it has a few differences RSYL---TPGDSSSG RTYLFNETRGNSSSG The fourth one has also a big hole, but they are using another strain of the virus. This article ha…

I included that study but it was retracted later. I believe that it is still valuable in the context of the bigger picture of research and the conversation on the subject. There is other peer-reviewed research which is included

I think it was never officialy published. The other research articles don't claim that Covid-19 has copies of parts of HIV.

Re: Covid-19 and HIV: Follow Me Down the Rabbit Hole

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Post by sarahnadav »

gus_massa wrote: post #16
sarahnadav wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I included that study but it was retracted later. I believe that it is still valuable in the context of the bigger picture of research and the conversation on the subject. There is other peer-reviewed research which is included

I think it was never officialy published. The other research articles don't claim that Covid-19 has copies of parts of HIV.

No- they claim that it attacks T-cells like HIV

Re: Covid-19 and HIV: Follow Me Down the Rabbit Hole

#18

Post by sarahnadav »

dodgyb wrote: post #15
sarahnadav wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was a quick write up of what I've discovered over the past week. It actually came out of research for an economic theory I was writing for the World Economic Forum. It is not a definitive argument of any kind. You can read it through this free link https://medium.com/@sarahnadav/covid-19-hiv-follow-me-down-t...

This is more than a rabbit warren Sarah... A quote from a peer reviewed paper by Shi Zhengli the 'Chinese Bat Lady' on how she combined SARS and HIV "we investigated the receptor usage of the SL-CoV S by combining a human immunodeficiency virus-based pseudovirus system with cell lines expressing the ACE2 molecules of human, civet, or horseshoe bat" https://project-evidence.github.io/#%28part._p1%29

HOLY SHIT.

Re: Covid-19 and HIV: Follow Me Down the Rabbit Hole

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Post by sarahnadav »

dodgyb wrote: post #15
sarahnadav wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was a quick write up of what I've discovered over the past week. It actually came out of research for an economic theory I was writing for the World Economic Forum. It is not a definitive argument of any kind. You can read it through this free link https://medium.com/@sarahnadav/covid-19-hiv-follow-me-down-t...

This is more than a rabbit warren Sarah... A quote from a peer reviewed paper by Shi Zhengli the 'Chinese Bat Lady' on how she combined SARS and HIV "we investigated the receptor usage of the SL-CoV S by combining a human immunodeficiency virus-based pseudovirus system with cell lines expressing the ACE2 molecules of human, civet, or horseshoe bat" https://project-evidence.github.io/#%28part._p1%29

I'm reading this through and it's hard to understand why this isn't common knowledge

Re: Covid-19 and HIV: Follow Me Down the Rabbit Hole

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Post by sarahnadav »

dodgyb wrote: post #15
sarahnadav wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was a quick write up of what I've discovered over the past week. It actually came out of research for an economic theory I was writing for the World Economic Forum. It is not a definitive argument of any kind. You can read it through this free link https://medium.com/@sarahnadav/covid-19-hiv-follow-me-down-t...

This is more than a rabbit warren Sarah... A quote from a peer reviewed paper by Shi Zhengli the 'Chinese Bat Lady' on how she combined SARS and HIV "we investigated the receptor usage of the SL-CoV S by combining a human immunodeficiency virus-based pseudovirus system with cell lines expressing the ACE2 molecules of human, civet, or horseshoe bat" https://project-evidence.github.io/#%28part._p1%29

Their original article was published in 2008- so what I question is why this was ever OK.
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