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Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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Post by covidacct » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 10:05 PM UTC

This talk is an amusing aside. I think the other posters are bit harsh for a talk that's clearly meant to be taken in that way.

If you're interested in actual psychology of programming languages, there is a small but growing research community at the intersection of programming languages and software engineering. The focus is mostly on usability research a la human-computer interaction, but there's also work on community psychology, etc. applies to programming languages and software engineering. See, for example, https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7503516

Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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Post by vesche » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 10:06 PM UTC

From the video...

Psychopath Languages: Javascript, PHP, VBA, and SQL

Masochist Languages: C, Assembly, Ada, Brainfuck, and Factor

Sadist Languages: Perl, Clojure, Erlang, and Regex

Fetishistic Languages: Erlang, Smalltalk, Elixir, and Factor

Obsessional Languages: Java, C++, Haskell, Scala, Go

Hysterical Languages: Python, Ruby, C#, Prolog, Elixir, and Matlib

Depression Languages: COBOL

Melancholy Languages: Lisp, Scheme, Smalltalk

Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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Post by joe_the_user » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 10:08 PM UTC

mettamage wrote: post #8

Psychoanalysis: psychologists that don't do experiments, according to my university. Because of this they were briefly covered during one lecture and then completely tossed aside. Psychology != experimental psychology Yes, experimental psychologists have a field that almost completely crumbled, but at least they (1) admitted it and (2) some of them try to conduct science and succeed at it (most don't succeed unfortun…

The video does a decent job of explaining the relevance of Lacanian-Zizekian theory. The approach isn't really aiming to be equivalent to experimental psychology. Rather, it's a view of strategy in personal interactions.

Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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Post by wanda » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 10:17 PM UTC

vesche wrote: post #12

From the video... Psychopath Languages: Javascript, PHP, VBA, and SQL Masochist Languages: C, Assembly, Ada, Brainfuck, and Factor Sadist Languages: Perl, Clojure, Erlang, and Regex Fetishistic Languages: Erlang, Smalltalk, Elixir, and Factor Obsessional Languages: Java, C++, Haskell, Scala, Go Hysterical Languages: Python, Ruby, C#, Prolog, Elixir, and Matlib Depression Languages: COBOL Melancholy Languages: Lisp, S…

As someone who has primarily worked with Perl, JavaScript, SQL during their career, and who has a penchant for regular expressions, I'm a sadistic psychopath.

Super.

I mean I've been told I'm pretty unemotional, but sadism would definitely be a new development.

Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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Post by superflit » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 10:20 PM UTC

I think this video https://youtu.be/D1sXuHnf_lo

Explains what languages correspond to which fetishes better.

You can see the author is very subtle and only say it at 0:55 while discussing some languages.

And plus it is Emacs!

Edit: NSFW

Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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Post by m3047 » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 10:22 PM UTC

I thought it was fantastic! But my father was a clinical psychiatrist. When I explain to people how the computer thinks I mostly automatically role play, and when they get indignant I don't care, I just shrug it off. But the psychoanalyst is a pervert, right?

Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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Post by graycat » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 10:36 PM UTC

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Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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Post by twic » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 10:42 PM UTC

graycat wrote: post #17

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> there were no emotional, psychological, psychiatric, subconscious, etc. considerations at all

> I heard good things about big shops successfully using Windows Server for Web sites and running database. I need database, and Microsoft's SQL Server seems well respected, understood, popular, documented, stable, etc.

This clearly suggests a yearning for a father figure. What was your parents' relationship like when you were a child?

Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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Post by wolfgke » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 10:42 PM UTC

vesche wrote: post #12

From the video... Psychopath Languages: Javascript, PHP, VBA, and SQL Masochist Languages: C, Assembly, Ada, Brainfuck, and Factor Sadist Languages: Perl, Clojure, Erlang, and Regex Fetishistic Languages: Erlang, Smalltalk, Elixir, and Factor Obsessional Languages: Java, C++, Haskell, Scala, Go Hysterical Languages: Python, Ruby, C#, Prolog, Elixir, and Matlib Depression Languages: COBOL Melancholy Languages: Lisp, S…

Where do Nock and Hoon belong (from Urbit, for those who are out of the loop)?

Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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Post by joe_the_user » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 10:45 PM UTC

covidacct wrote: post #11

This talk is an amusing aside. I think the other posters are bit harsh for a talk that's clearly meant to be taken in that way. If you're interested in actual psychology of programming languages, there is a small but growing research community at the intersection of programming languages and software engineering. The focus is mostly on usability research a la human-computer interaction, but there's also work on commu…

Well, various parts are taken amusingly but I think this is aiming to be a serious inquiry into the psychology of programming language choice, which a bit different from the psychology of actually programming. Language choice is much wrapped up with power and ideology, areas that Zizek etc focus on strongly.