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Earthly – Makefile Meets Dockerfile

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Re: Earthly – Makefile Meets Dockerfile

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Post by hartzell »

> But most importantly, all builds are completely reproducible.

This is only true if the commands that the recipe executes are reproducible. If someone's pulling packages from PyPi or C[PR]AN or ... w/out locking the versions, all bets are off.

This is one of my biggest beefs with many containerization sales pitches...

Re: Earthly – Makefile Meets Dockerfile

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Post by monkpit »

nine_k wrote: post #10
kesor wrote: post #9

That Dockerfile looks exactly like a multi-stage build Dockerfile, just with custom and non-standard syntax. Why NIH instead of simply adopting the already supported Dockerfile syntax of doing the same thing?

But isn't this file processed differently?

Is it?

Re: Earthly – Makefile Meets Dockerfile

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Post by wwright »

riedel wrote: post #8
antoncohen wrote: post #5

This essentially looks like a Makefile where the tasks (targets) are run inside Docker containers. That is useful, I've definitely written Makefiles where tasks run in containers, and I wish it was easier. But does this actually replace Bazel? Without language specific rules, like knowledge of dependencies, can it build a full dependency graph? If I have a monorepo with many packages, can Earthly build only what need…

Except all the nice things from makefiles like actual rules are missing in this one. There must be a better way to do this. Isn't there a tool to actually incrementally build container layers in the normal file system that works with the real make or any other build system?

Bazel has a set of rules to do this AFAICT. The OCI format isn’t particularly complex, so it’s probably not hard to build something into Make or CMake or so on. (IMO Bazel has some of the best tools for abstraction and reuse in a build system, so it makes even more sense there.)

Re: Earthly – Makefile Meets Dockerfile

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Post by spinningarrow »

hartzell wrote: post #11
folmar wrote: post #6

I strive to see a selling feature in comparison to gitlab-ci... Mixing its syntax with docker is only so little.

gitlab-ci requires GitLab, doesn't it? This doesn't, so it's an option for other settings.

I think it doesn’t, at least seems to support GitHub repos: https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/github/

Re: Earthly – Makefile Meets Dockerfile

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Post by cpitman »

riedel wrote: post #8
antoncohen wrote: post #5

This essentially looks like a Makefile where the tasks (targets) are run inside Docker containers. That is useful, I've definitely written Makefiles where tasks run in containers, and I wish it was easier. But does this actually replace Bazel? Without language specific rules, like knowledge of dependencies, can it build a full dependency graph? If I have a monorepo with many packages, can Earthly build only what need…

Except all the nice things from makefiles like actual rules are missing in this one. There must be a better way to do this. Isn't there a tool to actually incrementally build container layers in the normal file system that works with the real make or any other build system?

That sounds like Buildah (https://github.com/containers/buildah/blob/master/README.md).

Buildah can work with standard Dockerfiles, but it can also do a lot more. For example, you can mount the container filesystem, modify it (say using make), then use those updates as a new layer.

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