Toshiba, Seagate shipping slower SMR drives without disclosure, too

Post by gruez » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 1:49 PM UTC

lonelappde wrote: post #3

fendy3002 wrote: post #2

So does this happened because the rising adaptation of SSD or it's bound to happen after all for HDD to cutting cost?

It's competition. Every cost cutting tech gets adoption except for boost the main muggle specs like capacity. On the SSD side we have DRAMless and TLC. The annoying thing is that unless the government forces disclosure, the honest manufacturers are the ones hurt, having to start advertising "no SMR!" to differentiate, like the organic/health food products in the grocery store that have to list all the poisons they do…

Post by LeifCarrotson » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 2:10 PM UTC

lonelappde wrote: post #3

fendy3002 wrote: post #2

So does this happened because the rising adaptation of SSD or it's bound to happen after all for HDD to cutting cost?

It's competition. Every cost cutting tech gets adoption except for boost the main muggle specs like capacity. On the SSD side we have DRAMless and TLC. The annoying thing is that unless the government forces disclosure, the honest manufacturers are the ones hurt, having to start advertising "no SMR!" to differentiate, like the organic/health food products in the grocery store that have to list all the poisons they do…

Post by LeifCarrotson » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 2:13 PM UTC

Post by votepaunchy » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 2:17 PM UTC

segfaultbuserr wrote: post #12

Havoc wrote: post #7

Can't say I particularly care frankly. I don't see myself buying another spinning plate of rust

How do you backup your motionless piles of sand, then? /joke Perhaps all the data you care is on the cloud, but HDDs are still important for backups. Although it's the most acceptable scenario to use an inferior SMR disk. The real issue of SMR is RAID/servers, which, of course, is what the cloud is made of...

Post by dannyw » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 2:41 PM UTC

gruez wrote: post #11

lonelappde wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's competition. Every cost cutting tech gets adoption except for boost the main muggle specs like capacity. On the SSD side we have DRAMless and TLC. The annoying thing is that unless the government forces disclosure, the honest manufacturers are the ones hurt, having to start advertising "no SMR!" to differentiate, like the organic/health food products in the grocery store that have to list all the poisons they do…

>On the SSD side we have DRAMless and TLC. Are you sure you're not talking about QLC? Current TLC drives can be pretty decent in terms of write speed and endurance.