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Lidar: Peek into the Future with iPad Pro

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Re: Lidar: Peek into the Future with iPad Pro

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I just got one of these and it's very strange to me Apple did not include any apps on the iPad itself that demonstrates the Lidar hardware. They go to all of the trouble of putting it in there, and then when you turn it on and it's as if it doesn't even exist. Why not just include an app that allows me to play with the data stream?

Something tells me that one has to wait for those now already mythologised Apple VR glasses.

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post #3

I would be curious to know if this could be used (with a heavy dose of software and a rotating mount) to replace a Matterport scanner for real estate agents. That would be a $2495-$3995 cost for device, a fixed cost of $19-$29 per house walkthrough and a $49-$149/mo hosting fee. Seems like a boatload of cash could be made for a first-to-market product here.

How common are those? I've looked at a lot of properties and am yet to run across a 3D scan, but it may be very location dependent/value of property.

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I knew I recognized that name! Sebastiaan de With, who famously (in my mind) traveled from SF to the north shore of Alaska. I looked that post up the other day, from 2014, because I have a nice camera and a KLR - and I dream. [1]

When I read the iPad Pro announcement, the trifecta of Real Keyboard/iPadOS improvement/LiDAR got my attention. With the pandemic, I have found myself working with laptop actually in my lap, so I don't know how stable an iPad+keyboard would be. Otherwise, I would get it today to be my next personal workbook.

The opportunities for AR are incredible - that demo of walking around a scan is amazing. Interior design certainly looks like one of the first places that could benefit.

[1] https://imgur.com/a/J7kZJ

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post #4

Lidar tech sounds really nice. But as someone how still tries to figure stuff out. Where is the difference of a Time of Flight Sensor and a Lidar sensor? Where are the differences and what are the advantages between these two sensors?

You have great many lidars around, TOF sensors are the entry class category, usually with short range.

Serious sensors usually use continuous wave operation, and some modulation scheme

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post #3

I would be curious to know if this could be used (with a heavy dose of software and a rotating mount) to replace a Matterport scanner for real estate agents. That would be a $2495-$3995 cost for device, a fixed cost of $19-$29 per house walkthrough and a $49-$149/mo hosting fee. Seems like a boatload of cash could be made for a first-to-market product here.

How common are those? I've looked at a lot of properties and am yet to run across a 3D scan, but it may be very location dependent/value of property.

Very common in my area. When we just put our previous home up for rent, the agent had somebody come in, scan and photo the house and it was up the next day with virtual 3d walkthroughs and everything. We kinda couldn't believe they would do that just for a rental.

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post #3

I would be curious to know if this could be used (with a heavy dose of software and a rotating mount) to replace a Matterport scanner for real estate agents. That would be a $2495-$3995 cost for device, a fixed cost of $19-$29 per house walkthrough and a $49-$149/mo hosting fee. Seems like a boatload of cash could be made for a first-to-market product here.

How common are those? I've looked at a lot of properties and am yet to run across a 3D scan, but it may be very location dependent/value of property.

Agreed, can't say I've seen them in use, though not deep into the housing market.

However in the current climate and social adjustment afterwards - such services and uses will certainly see an increase in usage and virtual viewings may well be more the norm.

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Are the demos impressive in a way I'm failing to spot? It still seems about on par with others and still has plenty of noise in the pop art chair and kitchen. I was hoping this would put the magic leap to shame but it doesn't seem much better.

Re: Lidar: Peek into the Future with iPad Pro

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I just got one of these and it's very strange to me Apple did not include any apps on the iPad itself that demonstrates the Lidar hardware. They go to all of the trouble of putting it in there, and then when you turn it on and it's as if it doesn't even exist. Why not just include an app that allows me to play with the data stream?

A a previous comment called it - chicken and egg situation. But at least we have the chicken, so the eggs will come.

Though for nothing built in to use or avail in any way this tech, sure does seem a bit surprising, though now the HW is there, they will certainly have the software eventually.

The cynic in me says that Apple will wait for some wonder app and then buy or copy it. I say cynic as there have been a few instances of that transpiring previously with Apple - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8565673/Apple-a...

Re: Lidar: Peek into the Future with iPad Pro

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I just got one of these and it's very strange to me Apple did not include any apps on the iPad itself that demonstrates the Lidar hardware. They go to all of the trouble of putting it in there, and then when you turn it on and it's as if it doesn't even exist. Why not just include an app that allows me to play with the data stream?

the measure app has special features in regards to the Lidar sensor. It will tell you how tall someone is if you point at them, and it will also resolve to a ruler when you get close to a measurement.

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post #17

Are the demos impressive in a way I'm failing to spot? It still seems about on par with others and still has plenty of noise in the pop art chair and kitchen. I was hoping this would put the magic leap to shame but it doesn't seem much better.

Yup, flash lidar has some ways to go before it can become usable, in my opinion. I don't think there's much hope. I shouldn't say more!

Instead of using the time to determine the distance as typical lidar does, it uses the phase difference, and requires a precise phase measurement. This unfortunately is not nearly as accurate, especially with such a low-powered laser.

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