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Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie

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Re: Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie

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When it comes to lifting the only real "fact" is that what works best varies from person to person. People with great genetics can do heavy volume lifting 5 or 6 days a week and make amazing gains. Meanwhile, others will struggle to make any progress even with a low volume 2 day a week routine because their body doesn't recover well.

Just go out there, experiment and see what works for you.

Re: Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie

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post #3

That's right because us hackers really care about fitness

I've never met a successful person who was an unmotivated lardass. Probably close to 2/3rds of the people who I've worked with that are in the top of their fields are crazy about cycling, marital arts, running, etc.

It just takes too much energy to go hard enough to achieve big things, I wouldn't even consider it practical if you don't have some degree of physical fitness.

Re: Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie

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post #3

That's right because us hackers really care about fitness

Is this sarcasm that hackers don't like being healthy or a kind of pun about AI algorithms?

Some hackers still need to learn to put two and two together.

That is to say, fitness + good eating = many years of happy hacking

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post #7

I get the logic and intent behind these kind of articles but at the same time they infuriate me, because this is the kind of crap that people read and use as yet-another-reason as to why they don't try to get fit. Sure, machines aren't perfect, and they railroad your form, but it's better than nothing. I train on machines, _and_ with free weight, _and_ doing bodyweight / crossfit stuff. They all have their place. The…

There's no way I'd try to pull the rep max on a free barbell that I would on a smith machine

Why not? So long as you're not being stupid, a spotter and/or the safeties built into the cage/rack or bench should do fine.

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These links to auto-printing pages are unacceptable. Link me to the normal display article in these cases. I'll take it from there.

You're concerned, but don't add the link: http://www.mensjournal.com/everything-you-know-about-fitness...

As for me, I prefer the version on one page, with no ads. Clicking "cancel" is not too high a price to pay (for me).

Re: Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie

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post #3

That's right because us hackers really care about fitness

As it happens it's a pretty popular subject. Hacker Diet ( http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/ ) is a book written by Autodesk's Founder, there's a pretty active corner at Reddit ( http://www.reddit.com/r/fitness ), and this is definitely not the first post on the subject I've seen on HN.

...and if you read /r/fitness with any remote regularity then most of this article isn't very surprising at all.

Re: Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie

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post #7

I get the logic and intent behind these kind of articles but at the same time they infuriate me, because this is the kind of crap that people read and use as yet-another-reason as to why they don't try to get fit. Sure, machines aren't perfect, and they railroad your form, but it's better than nothing. I train on machines, _and_ with free weight, _and_ doing bodyweight / crossfit stuff. They all have their place. The…

There's no way I'd try to pull the rep max on a free barbell that I would on a smith machine Why not? So long as you're not being stupid, a spotter and/or the safeties built into the cage/rack or bench should do fine.

You'd be almost guaranteed to fail the lift. Smith machines let you use higher weight because you don't have to spend energy stabilizing the barbell. With safety bars failing isn't a huge deal, it's just pointless.

Re: Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no way I'd try to pull the rep max on a free barbell that I would on a smith machine Why not? So long as you're not being stupid, a spotter and/or the safeties built into the cage/rack or bench should do fine.

You'd be almost guaranteed to fail the lift. Smith machines let you use higher weight because you don't have to spend energy stabilizing the barbell. With safety bars failing isn't a huge deal, it's just pointless.

Oh, he's talking about raw numbers. I guess in retrospect, that's obvious, but when I replied I thought he was saying he doesn't push himself as hard with free weights.

Re: Everything You Know About Fitness is a Lie

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post #8

The article's conclusion: Lift big with classic lifts. Gain strength. What I actually do: Take walks and do isometrics on convenient bars, poles, etc. Max power, 5-10 second holds, multiple angles. The better I am about those rules, the more progress I make. More effective than any gym I've ever been in.

I understand what you are saying...isometrics are awesome...I actually do them almost everyday and I swear by them. I also swear by dynamic tension flexing, which brings great results.

But don't confuse those results with the results from classic big lifts. Like I said, I do isometrics all the time, but squats, deadlifts, benchpress and pullups are going to develop your musculature in ways isometrics never could.

What I'm doing now is a class lift style of back squats, deadlifts and benchpress 5x5 program for strength. Progress 5 pounds each session (make sure you start very low so you can build up) and end the each session with a circuit of your choosing x 3 (I normally do something like BW to failure of pullups, pushups, dips, plank, bridge/mule kick, ...then break and do it all again). Total workout including warmup takes 45 minutes max (I warm up for about 20 minutes).

This will build tons of muscle and you will gain strength very quickly. Though, make sure you eat right (Paleo) and cut out the crappy foods like grains/glutens/sugars and you will see fantastic results (if you still eat grains and the like, you'll gain weight, but you likely won't lose any fat .... some people call this "shitty weight" akin to drinking 2 gallons of milk a day).

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