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I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU

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Re: I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU

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Interesting read. But always remember, China is a country that does not let their people know the truth what happens in the world (the great firewall). So I'm not all convinced that they let the world know the truth what happens in China. The article could be an honest personal report or it could be government-backed propaganda. How do we know?

Everything is propaganda, so put on your critical thinking cap and judge for yourself.

Re: I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU

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post #8

Interesting read. But always remember, China is a country that does not let their people know the truth what happens in the world (the great firewall). So I'm not all convinced that they let the world know the truth what happens in China. The article could be an honest personal report or it could be government-backed propaganda. How do we know?

Sixth Tone was setup by the Chinese government to be more relatable to western audiences by sounding more critical, so you shouldn't take it at face value. On the other hand, it does provide useful information, and it could be seen as an attempt to provide higher quality news out of China.

After the Xi era, I think Chinese propaganda will actually move in a more critical/informative direction like Sixth Tone, since the current overt methods are losing effectiveness. But again, that could also just mean real reporting depending on how the government evolves.

Re: I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU

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post #7

FYI, this publication, and its parent is pretty much People's Daily in disguise. It is made along the lines of Shanghai Oriental Morning Post 2.0. Without a doubt, it is an even more of a state organ media than it's spiritual predecessor, despite the mandate to push "dissenting" view. Unlike something like Southern Weekly, which had not a single party cadre in its editors, despite being overtly party ran, but closed…

I'm surprised that they let him admit that he arrived to a ward covered in rubbish and medical waste staffed only by two opthamologists and two nurses tbh.

At -2 (and counting) for this currently, any downvoters care to comment as to why? If indeed this publication is a propaganda mouthpiece, then my surprise that they're publishing something that reflects badly on their medical providers should be easy to understand

Re: I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU

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basically no one died or got infected... lovely story. and as the great w would say, mission accomplished.

>and as the great w would say, mission accomplished Sorry, but the use of this quote out of context is one of my pet peeves, and the similarity is striking. In the case of G.W, he was receiving sailors returning to port after completing their deployment in harm's way. Their mission was accomplished. The message was not that war is over, as the media insinuated. In fact, the counterpoint was made in the speech[1], alt…

The funny coincidence with that story: Osama bin Laden's stated purpose for the 9/11 attacks was, in part, the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia. The US announced the withdrawal of troops from Saudi Arabia on April 29, 2003. Four days later Bush made that "Mission Accomplished" speech as the US was effectively complying with bin Laden's demand and surrendering their presence in Saudi Arabia.

Re: I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU

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post #8

Interesting read. But always remember, China is a country that does not let their people know the truth what happens in the world (the great firewall). So I'm not all convinced that they let the world know the truth what happens in China. The article could be an honest personal report or it could be government-backed propaganda. How do we know?

Everything is propaganda, so put on your critical thinking cap and judge for yourself.

True. In America it's both propaganda and entertainment; which is why all the 24/7 hate networks are really super dangerous when something like this is going on. People want their news byte. It's one thing to sensationalize studies for mundane stuff to make some spicy science news, but to do it ever day, on every unpublished study and exaggerate or extrapolate the most bizarre information; it just washes audiences in conflicting information that helps no one.

Re: I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU

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"Indeed, in our experience, no medicine was particularly useful. Instead, the most effective solution was oxygen. For around 60% of our patients, oxygen saturation was improved by using oxygen masks with a reservoir bag. In more severe cases, we would also use a nasal cannula and an oxygen mask to increase the volume of oxygen."

> though many of our patients experienced severe side effects and couldn’t continue the treatment

I took chloroquine years ago as a preventative anti-malaria when I was in India. I didn't get the weird dreams, but I got the harsh bowl movement, heart palpations, etc. I had to stop taking it and so did someone else on the trip. Had I got malaria I knew it would be worse, but I could start taking them again as a treatment drug as well.

Others on the trip didn't have any issues so I'm sure it's individual, but it is a very serious drug that can be hard on your system. I don't think that's been made clear.

Re: I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU

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post #7

FYI, this publication, and its parent is pretty much People's Daily in disguise. It is made along the lines of Shanghai Oriental Morning Post 2.0. Without a doubt, it is an even more of a state organ media than it's spiritual predecessor, despite the mandate to push "dissenting" view. Unlike something like Southern Weekly, which had not a single party cadre in its editors, despite being overtly party ran, but closed…

I would love to see what's wrong with this particular article that's not true. From what I am reading, most of the piece was based on the the doctor's experience.

Re: I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU

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post #7

FYI, this publication, and its parent is pretty much People's Daily in disguise. It is made along the lines of Shanghai Oriental Morning Post 2.0. Without a doubt, it is an even more of a state organ media than it's spiritual predecessor, despite the mandate to push "dissenting" view. Unlike something like Southern Weekly, which had not a single party cadre in its editors, despite being overtly party ran, but closed…

I would love to see what's wrong with this particular article that's not true. From what I am reading, most of the piece was based on the the doctor's experience.

> I would love to see what's wrong with this particular article that's not true.

May well be nothing.

The gotcha here is not what is being said, but why it is there in the first place.

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