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Apple to debut multiple ARM MacBook, desktop models in 2021

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Re: Apple to debut multiple ARM MacBook, desktop models in 2021

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Post by avelis »

raverbashing wrote: post #7

Still to be confirmed, I don't usually take "analyst predictions" too seriously but I found this interesting: "Apple will no longer be held to the whims of Intel" Apple switched to Intel because IBM couldn't ship a good enough G5 for notebooks and for scale issues. Given that Intel is not on track with 7nm and rumours of their CEO being seen in Taiwan the other day it seems history is repeating itself.

I remember rewatching the switch to Intel being for performance per watt. Intel was way better at that metric than G4 or even trying to get a G5 into a notebook. Maybe ARM can finally achieve the suitable performance per watt they are looking for.

Re: Apple to debut multiple ARM MacBook, desktop models in 2021

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Post by sudosysgen »

jshaqaw wrote: post #8

The question is as users should we care? If this is cheaper for Apple will they actually lower product prices or just enhance their own margins. Will this result in any superior performance on a cost-adjusted basis?

This is Apple. Unless there is a major downside, they will keep the same prices or increase it.

Re: Apple to debut multiple ARM MacBook, desktop models in 2021

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Post by arikr »

davidgerard wrote: post #3
zootam wrote: post #2

This is nothing new, just the latest rehashing of the same rumor that's been recirculating for months.

yeah, I was looking for something more than a single analyst's note here.

Kuo has an excellent track record on Apple predictions from what I understand.

Re: Apple to debut multiple ARM MacBook, desktop models in 2021

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Post by caycep »

raverbashing wrote: post #7

Still to be confirmed, I don't usually take "analyst predictions" too seriously but I found this interesting: "Apple will no longer be held to the whims of Intel" Apple switched to Intel because IBM couldn't ship a good enough G5 for notebooks and for scale issues. Given that Intel is not on track with 7nm and rumours of their CEO being seen in Taiwan the other day it seems history is repeating itself.

It goes w/ the core Jobs/Cook strategy of owning/controlling all their core tech.

(notwithstanding their core "supply chain tech" as per Ben Thompson's point on Stratechery).

The other thought...is it yet another loss of American technical expertise that they cannot chip fab w/ the best of them anymore?

Re: Apple to debut multiple ARM MacBook, desktop models in 2021

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Post by sudosysgen »

phoobahr wrote: post #10
nodesocket wrote: post #4

Is the switch to ARM going to be for cost savings, or are the chips actually faster than current Intel?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21033371

That's Geekbench. The differences in Geekbench for ARM devices and Geekbench for x86 are laughable. Why not compare them in a real life workload like a render on Blender or a kernel compile?

Re: Apple to debut multiple ARM MacBook, desktop models in 2021

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Post by electriclove »

jshaqaw wrote: post #8

The question is as users should we care? If this is cheaper for Apple will they actually lower product prices or just enhance their own margins. Will this result in any superior performance on a cost-adjusted basis?

Apple's gains in chip performance are incredible and I would prefer to have an alternative to Intel. If I can get better performance and they keep the price the same, I care.

Re: Apple to debut multiple ARM MacBook, desktop models in 2021

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Post by caycep »

jshaqaw wrote: post #8

The question is as users should we care? If this is cheaper for Apple will they actually lower product prices or just enhance their own margins. Will this result in any superior performance on a cost-adjusted basis?

for ARM, power per watt. It's always been the advantage.

Controlling the stack w/ better vertical integration as well will probably yield more coherent product design. You can tell re how "put-together" a product an iPad or iPhone is vs. a Mac these days.

While maybe not yielding direct customer, user-facing benefits, the under-the-hood benefits would definitely improve customer experience.

Re: Apple to debut multiple ARM MacBook, desktop models in 2021

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Post by thought_alarm »

Always a year away.

I remain deeply sceptical that Apple will move the Mac to ARM, and given their bungling of the MacBook lineup over the last 5 years I have doubts they understand what their users need from a laptop. I don't think they could pull it off without a great deal of pain for their users and developers. I don't think their OS engineers need the burden.

Re: Apple to debut multiple ARM MacBook, desktop models in 2021

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Post by evo_9 »

jshaqaw wrote: post #8

The question is as users should we care? If this is cheaper for Apple will they actually lower product prices or just enhance their own margins. Will this result in any superior performance on a cost-adjusted basis?

Users that run VM's because they need to run OSX and Win10, etc most definitely care.
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