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Spanish soldiers find bodies in Madrid retirement homes

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Re: Spanish soldiers find bodies in Madrid retirement homes

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I just shared my balanced opinion in a civilized way. I honestly think the dismantling of the country would be in the best interest of most of its inhabitants (except for a tiny minority who is directly benefited by the francoist clique).

Where are you from?

> Where are you from?

I was born in Barcelona and spent 30 years there. My opinions are probably wrong, but they are not entirely uninformed.

Re: Spanish soldiers find bodies in Madrid retirement homes

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Are we supposed to only say popular stuff? All ideas are worth discusding, even if only to explain why they are not going to be implemented.

"Are we supposed to only say popular stuff?" I've noticed a lot of censorship on this site

The site owners stated the rules up front. Their site, their rules. Moderation is both welcome and necessary.

Re: Spanish soldiers find bodies in Madrid retirement homes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just shared my balanced opinion in a civilized way. I honestly think the dismantling of the country would be in the best interest of most of its inhabitants (except for a tiny minority who is directly benefited by the francoist clique).

Where are you from?

Yes, your opinion is not only wrong, it is totally uninformed.

Or worse, it totally uninforming

Re: Spanish soldiers find bodies in Madrid retirement homes

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Where are you from?

> Where are you from? I was born in Barcelona and spent 30 years there. My opinions are probably wrong, but they are not entirely uninformed.

They're not uninformed, but they're biased. I doubt you'll find people in Cáceres that share that opinion.

Re: Spanish soldiers find bodies in Madrid retirement homes

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Maybe delete your comment? You aren't doing yourself any favors by saying that kind of stuff.

Are we supposed to only say popular stuff? All ideas are worth discusding, even if only to explain why they are not going to be implemented.

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Re: Spanish soldiers find bodies in Madrid retirement homes

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Some additional details from other local sources. Details are scarce, so... sorry, but I think I can add a couple of things to the linked article.

The UME (Military Emergency Unit) has been disinfecting retirement homes for some days now (about a week IIRC). Initially they were only allowed to do this, disinfestation, and it was the homes' responsibility to "ask for help" on anything else when needed, and some didn't.

The news referred to in the article is that "at least 2" undeclared dead people have been found by the UME and also a number of cases of abandonment. Besides these "at least 2", there have been some other deaths but, generally, they have been declared. (What I know from friends: Most homes have secluded people in their rooms and many are understaffed to check on them frequently enough.)

A related problem seems to be that funeral services are overwhelmed: they don't have enough space to store the bodies, and they do not have protective gear to deal with the bodies correctly (added note, see below comment). This has led to an announcement yesterday that a local ice-skating ring is being arranged to store those bodies temporarily while they wait to be disposed of.

Re: Spanish soldiers find bodies in Madrid retirement homes

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I just shared my balanced opinion in a civilized way. I honestly think the dismantling of the country would be in the best interest of most of its inhabitants (except for a tiny minority who is directly benefited by the francoist clique).

>>Spain is an inherently dysfunctional country. That's not a balanced opinion. That's just throwing shit into the crowd to see a reaction. If you really believe the stuff that you said, then explain why you think it's disfunctional and then we can have a discussion about it - maybe we'll even agree on some points! But otherwise you're just noise at best and provocator at worst.

That was simply zero information about the nursing home situation in Spain and plain old (you should guess where it comes from) political internal ethno-supremacism.

Meanwhile in the real world, for instance, I live next to a nursing home with 100 cases (6 deaths so far), 35 of them workers, that has been transformed into a state field hospital with support of all authorities and the military after the business asked for help. That's Santa Elena, Torrent.

This illustrates why isolating old people at special facilities as some luminaries have been advising for is an absurd plan.

Re: Spanish soldiers find bodies in Madrid retirement homes

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Maybe delete your comment? You aren't doing yourself any favors by saying that kind of stuff.

Are we supposed to only say popular stuff? All ideas are worth discusding, even if only to explain why they are not going to be implemented.

The issue (for me at least) is not that it was unpopular, but rather because it did not attempt to justify its position.

That being said, sadly chances are that it would get censored even if it did.

Re: Spanish soldiers find bodies in Madrid retirement homes

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Some additional details from other local sources. Details are scarce, so... sorry, but I think I can add a couple of things to the linked article. The UME (Military Emergency Unit) has been disinfecting retirement homes for some days now (about a week IIRC). Initially they were only allowed to do this, disinfestation, and it was the homes' responsibility to "ask for help" on anything else when needed, and some didn't…

Funeral services rejected to get bodies with covid-19 because the lack of materials to deal with it properly, and therefore it would be irresponsable. Not saying they might not be overwhelmed as well.
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