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Pro drivers are competing with gamers after F1 and Nascar canceled races

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Re: Pro drivers are competing with gamers after F1 and Nascar canceled races

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My daughter immediately asked: who's winning? Darn good question, and I didn't find an answer in the article (though admittedly I skimmed a bit).

The gamers are generally faster because the games are not perfect simulations of reality.

Professional drivers destroy in simulations like racing.com

Re: Pro drivers are competing with gamers after F1 and Nascar canceled races

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As someone who has raced formula race cars and who has been an enthusiastic participant in racing simulations since way back in the old days of Grand Prix Legends let me assure you - a simulated race car has almost nothing in common with the real experience other than your hands are turning a wheel and your feet push pedals. The sensations in a real race car are simply overwhelming - the noise, g forces, heat, and the lack of being able to see much other than straight ahead. Grand Prix Legends and iRacing were/are both tremendous fun and a real achievement - but they are nothing like the real thing.

Re: Pro drivers are competing with gamers after F1 and Nascar canceled races

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As someone who has raced formula race cars and who has been an enthusiastic participant in racing simulations since way back in the old days of Grand Prix Legends let me assure you - a simulated race car has almost nothing in common with the real experience other than your hands are turning a wheel and your feet push pedals. The sensations in a real race car are simply overwhelming - the noise, g forces, heat, and th…

Aw shucks. Here I thought it was going to be totally identical.

Re: Pro drivers are competing with gamers after F1 and Nascar canceled races

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post #12

As someone who has raced formula race cars and who has been an enthusiastic participant in racing simulations since way back in the old days of Grand Prix Legends let me assure you - a simulated race car has almost nothing in common with the real experience other than your hands are turning a wheel and your feet push pedals. The sensations in a real race car are simply overwhelming - the noise, g forces, heat, and th…

Thanks captain obvious.

Re: Pro drivers are competing with gamers after F1 and Nascar canceled races

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post #12

As someone who has raced formula race cars and who has been an enthusiastic participant in racing simulations since way back in the old days of Grand Prix Legends let me assure you - a simulated race car has almost nothing in common with the real experience other than your hands are turning a wheel and your feet push pedals. The sensations in a real race car are simply overwhelming - the noise, g forces, heat, and th…

Your comment speaks to whether someone who enjoys racing an actual car would enjoy the simulation.

But in the context of sports-as-trillion-dollar-entertainment-businesses, what is interesting here is not whether simulated racing is the same as racing IRL for competitors, but the degree to which it is the same for spectators.

Your comment still stands, though!

Re: Pro drivers are competing with gamers after F1 and Nascar canceled races

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My daughter immediately asked: who's winning? Darn good question, and I didn't find an answer in the article (though admittedly I skimmed a bit).

earlier this week, there was an article about F1 drivers playing the codemasters F1 game, and the best pro driver came in 8th and seemed pretty happy to have done that well.

the rationale is that driving is not just a challenge of operating the controls, but a physical challenge too. when you take away the physical aspect, the drivers lose not only the advantage of their physical training, but also an important input that they use for reactions.

Re: Pro drivers are competing with gamers after F1 and Nascar canceled races

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The gamers are generally faster because the games are not perfect simulations of reality.

Professional drivers destroy in simulations like racing.com

Professional drivers that also spend a lot of time sim racing, that is...

The same is true in this series. Drivers like Max Verstappen and Lando Norris (among the best drivers in the world) so very well, but they also spend a lot of their free time playing these games.

Other world class drivers (Hamilton, Vettel, etc), likely wouldn't do anywhere near as well.

Obviously there is some overlap in the skills required, but at the end of the day, experience gaming is going to help more than more experience in a real car.

Re: Pro drivers are competing with gamers after F1 and Nascar canceled races

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My daughter immediately asked: who's winning? Darn good question, and I didn't find an answer in the article (though admittedly I skimmed a bit).

The gamers are generally faster because the games are not perfect simulations of reality.

A few of the real drivers are also highly ranked simmers as well. Max Verstappen (one of the best drivers in F1) is commonly seen in public iRacing races

Re: Pro drivers are competing with gamers after F1 and Nascar canceled races

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This was an invitational. I suspect without any supporting evidence that they tried to keep this to to Nascar participants # 1 for the familiarity it brings the fans (Go Jr!) but also because I doubt a ‘real’ racer would have won the race had the best of the online only competition been allowed to complete. And after watching the race it was sadly just as good as a real race. They have become quite boring the last few years.

Re: Pro drivers are competing with gamers after F1 and Nascar canceled races

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post #12

As someone who has raced formula race cars and who has been an enthusiastic participant in racing simulations since way back in the old days of Grand Prix Legends let me assure you - a simulated race car has almost nothing in common with the real experience other than your hands are turning a wheel and your feet push pedals. The sensations in a real race car are simply overwhelming - the noise, g forces, heat, and th…

Aw shucks. Here I thought it was going to be totally identical.

Haha, right. That comment had literally zero information value. Obviously playing Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 is nothing like ollying your skateboard let alone any of the other tricks.

Thinly veiled attempt to use online comment forum as a personal blog.

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