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Track infections through resting heart rate

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On the other hand, this is quite sensitive data, which is why a respected nonprofit organization would be much more trustworthy, and which is why I understand the decision of the referees.

People install apps voluntarily , they should be able to make these sort of decisions for themselves. It's one thing to protect users from malware, quite another to treat them like legal incompetents.

There is nothing wrong with Apple having some standards for the app store.

Re: Track infections through resting heart rate

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Appreciate the intention, we should all be applying our skills to solve this problem we're all facing but just playing devil's advocate here, my resting heart rate has gone up lately.

And it's not because I have the infection (I don't), it's because I've been stuck working in my apartment in Seattle for the past 3 weeks and I feel like I'm living a boring dystopian novel. I also stopped weightlifting, as the gym is closed. So my 'convict conditioning' workouts aren't giving me the same dose of endorphins as before, which helped keeping me happy and with a steady calm heart rate (I'm a huge hypochondriac). People I run into when I buy food also seem on edge.

Not sure how relevant something like this would be for someone living in the middle of the outbreak, which is probably the exact target of such a tool. Yes, I am aware that I'm aware of my stress (as you stated in the readme) but again, it wouldn't help me or others by tracking my heart rate and associating it with an infection.

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People install apps voluntarily , they should be able to make these sort of decisions for themselves. It's one thing to protect users from malware, quite another to treat them like legal incompetents.

Just like they made the decisions for themselves when faced with the Cambridge Analytica quizes, right? Regulations are there for a reason.

You know, my HIPAA training is out of date and it's possible that new legislation applies. One of the more aggravating parts of my insurance job was dealing with people who thought I wanted them to sign an authorization because the insurance company was a meanie face trying to screw them out of their money and I would explain "No, ma'am, we need this to comply with federal law. Please and thank you." and they would be all chagrined and get me the auth, at long last.

But I only see App Store guidelines cited, not federal legislation. So the odds are good that someone in the company has the power to overrule that.

Given the circumstances, it seems to me this would be an appropriate time for an executive to say "Yea, verily, fuck them there guidelines. Let this person do this thing."

And if they don't want to or can't do that, it would be a good time for someone to hand walk it through the process and get it hooked up post haste with whatever doohickey would make everyone all happy.

Re: Track infections through resting heart rate

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Appreciate the intention, we should all be applying our skills to solve this problem we're all facing but just playing devil's advocate here, my resting heart rate has gone up lately. And it's not because I have the infection (I don't), it's because I've been stuck working in my apartment in Seattle for the past 3 weeks and I feel like I'm living a boring dystopian novel. I also stopped weightlifting, as the gym is c…

It's non-invasive, doesn't require the breaking of quarantine and relies on infrastructure that is already in place. More information is better than less and the author has some degree of professional expertise in the subject, according to statements on the page linked.

There are always going to be outliers and what not. I knew someone who used to intentionally lower their heart rate to like 30 beats per second when getting their heart rate taken to screw with medical staff because they thought it was funny. Combination of good fitness and meditation techniques.

Nothing is perfect. But this seems like a rather good idea compared to expensive tests that potentially expose the person being tested to risk and potentially expose others to them at a time when they may be contagious.

This seems like a rather poor time to "just play devil's advocate" without some real and serious objection.

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An increased resting heart rate can be caused by many things, and we have no false negative/positive rate for increased heart rate wrt this virus. Whilst the intention is good, this app will end up sending many more people to hospitals, doctors, and pharmacists than necessary, furthering the straing on the healthcare system.

Re: Track infections through resting heart rate

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First thing I was looking for was a download link :( Why does Apple think I’m unable to decide for myself whether I want this or not.

Thats a sacrifice you make when you choose the ios ecosystem. It's a compromise between secure apps, privacy and inconvenience.

Re: Track infections through resting heart rate

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First thing I was looking for was a download link :( Why does Apple think I’m unable to decide for myself whether I want this or not.

Thats a sacrifice you make when you choose the ios ecosystem. It's a compromise between secure apps, privacy and inconvenience.

I don't think Android allows coronavirus apps either. If this were for Android it would be likely barred from the play store.

https://play.google.com/store/search?q=covid-19&c=apps

https://play.google.com/store/search?q=coronavirus&c=apps

0 results.

Re: Track infections through resting heart rate

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Thats a sacrifice you make when you choose the ios ecosystem. It's a compromise between secure apps, privacy and inconvenience.

I don't think Android allows coronavirus apps either. If this were for Android it would be likely barred from the play store. https://play.google.com/store/search?q=covid-19&c=apps https://play.google.com/store/search?q=coronavirus&c=apps 0 results.

At least Android allows sideloading.

Re: Track infections through resting heart rate

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats a sacrifice you make when you choose the ios ecosystem. It's a compromise between secure apps, privacy and inconvenience.

I don't think Android allows coronavirus apps either. If this were for Android it would be likely barred from the play store. https://play.google.com/store/search?q=covid-19&c=apps https://play.google.com/store/search?q=coronavirus&c=apps 0 results.

You could just install the apk file straight out of github though
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