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I, Backpack

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Re: I, Backpack

#11
> The manufacturer of my backpack, for example, offers a sort of warranty, to communicate to me the alignment of their values with my own (for a durable product).

If you’re thinking about sustainability policy, one idea might be to require warranties like this one for all material objects. This would force companies to internalize the cost of goods that wear out quickly and incentivize them to create more durable products.

It may sound radical, but I’m convinced that’s the general direction we need. If you sell a non consumable/perishable object, you should be required at the very least to accept the good back from the customer at no cost to them, and recycle/reuse/dispose of it properly. Requiring 5-10 year warranties or more is also something we should consider. I’m not sure what the exact answer would look like, but those directions seem like the right way to get ourselves out of the huge landfill/electronic waste hills we’ve buried ourselves under.

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#13
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I scrolled all the way down to see the goddamned fixed backpack, but the image is not there...

The backpack isn't important it's about changing human behavior.

If you don't watch out you'll spend all day writing essays about changing human behaviors but at the end you'll have forgotten to fix your backpack.

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#14

Another alternative is to buy quality in the first place. I spent around $100 on a Patagonia backpack, and it’s been in everyday use for over 6 years and is still fine. If it does fail, Patagonia has an excellent repair program.

Yep! A few points about this...

I have noticed that many "quality" brands tend to introduce lower quality lines as they grow in size. Perhaps as they hire more business folks and the founders becomes further and further removed from the operation of the company. At first glance the lower quality line can be hard to tell apart from the higher quality products.

Also, price does not necessarily determine quality so it pays to be learn some of the telltale signs of higher quality products such as the stitching and materials used.

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#15
It's an unfortunate situation that we find ourselves in. Perhaps not surprising, however, since it's driven by economics.

For those who care, however, it's not too hard to learn to fix things ourselves with a little practice. Especially for non-tech products.

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#17
I spent $400+ on an arcteryx backpack 20+ years ago. Last summer, I hiked the Cape Wrath "Trail" in the Scottish Highlands. It continues to be flawless.

I wrote to the company afterwards to thank them for a product that still works better than I could imagine, and in fact is better than any product they make today (at least for the purposes of a 17 day backcountry trip with almost no resupply).

Sadly, one of the reasons I bought the Arcteryx at the time was that they were still manufactured in north American (BC). This is no longer the case, and from my inspection of their current products, while they are still superb in comparison to the competition, they don't really do well in comparison to the late 90's versions.

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#18
It's actually not economics. What if I set up on a sidewalk in SF (you pick which one) with a heavy-duty sewing machine and offer to fix people's backpacks for a dollar or two? That question should get you closer to what is actually going on.

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#19

Another alternative is to buy quality in the first place. I spent around $100 on a Patagonia backpack, and it’s been in everyday use for over 6 years and is still fine. If it does fail, Patagonia has an excellent repair program.

I bought a Targus laptop backpack 19 years ago, during freshman year of college. I have used it almost daily since then, carrying not just laptops but all kinds of other loads: clothing, snacks, books, you name it. I have traveled internationally. I've taken it with me to rugged hiking trips. Anything you can imagine.

It's still in fantastic condition. Never had to repair it, except for one time when one of the strap clips got crushed by my car's door.

Imagine that: a backpack, almost daily heavy use, carrying all kinds of stuff in it, and it almost never required repair.

I'm 100% sure they don't make them like that anymore.

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#20

Another alternative is to buy quality in the first place. I spent around $100 on a Patagonia backpack, and it’s been in everyday use for over 6 years and is still fine. If it does fail, Patagonia has an excellent repair program.

I bought a Targus laptop backpack 19 years ago, during freshman year of college. I have used it almost daily since then, carrying not just laptops but all kinds of other loads: clothing, snacks, books, you name it. I have traveled internationally. I've taken it with me to rugged hiking trips. Anything you can imagine. It's still in fantastic condition. Never had to repair it, except for one time when one of the strap…

If you're willing to pay a bit you can find them.

I use a Peak Design Messenger bag daily and it's in absolutely perfect condition after years of commuting, international travel, holidays etc. Their backpacks are built to the same standard.

https://www.peakdesign.com/collections/everyday-bags/

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