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Re: Farewell

#11

Post by bartread »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #8
jpgvm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to slog through it here is the post mentioned in the OP: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/byuu-byuu_nyan-setsunakun0.430...

That's not a website you would normally want to go anywhere near. It is a forum where stalkers and creeps go to obsess over and make fun of the lives of people who aren't public figures.

I mean, yeah, I'm pretty sure that byuu has done some things he regrets in life, including content he's posted online.

That's hardly unusual for people who've been on the internet for a long time, and is something that we as a society are going to have to learn to deal with better than we do at the moment. People change, and dredging up stuff that people posted years ago is more than a little bit sad, and deeply unedifying for everyone.

I'd never heard of Kiwi Farms before today and, honestly, I could cheerfully have gone my whole life without knowing about it.

I started reading the thread, then skimmed the responses further down and was, basically, appalled. This website truly does plumb the depths of mental depravity. It's a cesspool of lazy, warped, corrupted thinking.

Wikipedia has a pretty good overview of what you're getting into there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms

As such, I would regard any perspective on byuu shared on that site as highly suspect, and I certainly wouldn't use it as a yardstick by which to assess him as a human being.

Right: I think it might be time to go and disinfect my eyes and my brain.

Re: Farewell

#12

Post by btrask »

(For those who don't know, Byuu is a member here and will likely see comments in this thread.)

Hi Byuu. You don't know me, but I've been a fan of your work since the early days of bsnes. I've also seen at least some of your "detractors'" criticisms, while lurking. (My "favorite" was that you don't know enough math to emulate the 3D graphics of the N64, because you didn't stay in school. I didn't know they taught how to write SNES emulators in school either... Maybe I was sick that day.)

Anyway... Please don't be too hard on yourself. I think you're more mature than most(?) of your critics, and more importantly, you've made several comments and actions that make me think you have a genuine desire to self-improve.

Social graces seem to come more naturally to some people than others. The rest of us have to work it out for ourselves. You're a smart person, so I know you can do this if you devote the time to it. Of course, thinking of yourself as smart tends to be an obstacle, and the journey tends to start where you least expect it.

If you'll allow me to give a word of caution, avoid distractions. Spend some time by yourself pulling back from people online, and not writing code either. There are problems in life that no amount of code can help. If you really want to solve this, don't get too caught up in exploring Tokyo either. :)

I'm sorry if bsnes/higan hasn't made you happy, but if you still have some energy left, I know you can find a way to get what you really want out of life.

Thanks for your incredible effort, and godspeed.

Re: Farewell

#13

Post by snvzz »

saagarjha wrote: post #10
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not a website you would normally want to go anywhere near. It is a forum where stalkers and creeps go to obsess over and make fun of the lives of people who aren't public figures.

It's also highly unpleasant, with a lexicon reminiscent of 4chan.

I find 4chan a quite friendly place in contrast.

This forum seems focused on hate and trying to harm people.

Re: Farewell

#14

Post by throwanem »

kemonocode wrote: post #9
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not a website you would normally want to go anywhere near. It is a forum where stalkers and creeps go to obsess over and make fun of the lives of people who aren't public figures.

It's also a website with a culture of methodically archiving people's behavior, whether you agree with how it gets used or not. I agree with freedom of speech, but also I do think people ought to be held accountable for the things they say and do.

I'd be awfully hesitant to trust factual claims made by people who speak and behave as that site's users do. Nothing I've seen from them suggests a willingness to scruple at fabricating evidence.

Re: Farewell

#15

Post by dependenttypes »

kemonocode wrote: post #9
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not a website you would normally want to go anywhere near. It is a forum where stalkers and creeps go to obsess over and make fun of the lives of people who aren't public figures.

It's also a website with a culture of methodically archiving people's behavior, whether you agree with how it gets used or not. I agree with freedom of speech, but also I do think people ought to be held accountable for the things they say and do.

There used to be a banner in that site that said that white-knighting was not allowed. I understood that to mean that if someone posted something refuting another post that was criticizing that person they would get banned. I would agree with you if kiwifarms was a truly free site that aimed to stay objective but this does not seem to be the case.

Re: Farewell

#16

Post by byuu »

btrask wrote: post #12

(For those who don't know, Byuu is a member here and will likely see comments in this thread.) Hi Byuu. You don't know me, but I've been a fan of your work since the early days of bsnes. I've also seen at least some of your "detractors'" criticisms, while lurking. (My "favorite" was that you don't know enough math to emulate the 3D graphics of the N64, because you didn't stay in school. I didn't know they taught how…

Working on bsnes and higan were the things that made me most happy. Well, bug hunting was of course stressful but the joy of fixing a bug and seeing new games running was always well worth it! I'm definitely going to miss it a lot.

It was everything else that was a problem. If I could have just been left alone to code in peace and without all these pesky health and work issues, I'd be very happy to continue.

I think I still have a ways to go on the self-improvement, but it's hit a point where I think I need a few months' break to go at it offline, and maybe let my hands rest a while from typing so much. I ended up coming back to things the last two bouts of depression, so we'll see.

Thanks for the kind words, take care as well!

Re: Farewell

#17

Post by honkycat »

I totally feel the "I hate that my only talent is computer programming." I am in the exact same boat. I really don't even like the career anymore, other than the money, which I would trade in a heart-beat for a stable job that allowed more leisure time and made OK money.

I worked extremely hard on a start-up for half of my 20s and I ended up with basically nothing to show for it. Employers do not seem that interested in my start-up, they want "People with experience scaling large systems." Whoops.

Now I'm sending out my CV and I'm not getting many bites.

Re: Farewell

#18

Post by crankylinuxuser »

snvzz wrote: post #13
saagarjha wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also highly unpleasant, with a lexicon reminiscent of 4chan.

I find 4chan a quite friendly place in contrast. This forum seems focused on hate and trying to harm people.

Wow, you all weren't joking. That place is the chunks at the bottom of a cesspool.

Even 4chan /b/ is friendlier.

Re: Farewell

#19

Post by a_t48 »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #8
jpgvm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to slog through it here is the post mentioned in the OP: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/byuu-byuu_nyan-setsunakun0.430...

That's not a website you would normally want to go anywhere near. It is a forum where stalkers and creeps go to obsess over and make fun of the lives of people who aren't public figures.

Yeah - everyone says dumb things at one point or another. Maybe some of the callout is warranted, but collating every possible embarrassing thing someone has said is too much.

Re: Farewell

#20

Post by Mindless2112 »

I'll believe byuu cares about preserving history when he's stopped blocking the Wayback Machine from archiving his site.

Edit: The good work someone has done is no excuse for anything.

> The problem is that the internet is not like any other time in human history: everything we ever say and do gets recorded and indexed, all readily available to anyone curious, for all of time. This is new, and it's something that society has not really adapted to yet. I think we will reach that point in a generation or two. But right now, it seems impossible to be forgiven for our past mistakes. They all add up and weigh us down like an albatross around our necks. Stay around on the internet long enough, and it will eventually crush even the best of us.

> I could go back and read the things written about me from 2015 by people I've since made peace with and anger myself again. But that's not who they are today: that's who they were.

> People change. I'm embarrassed myself seeing how I've acted in the past. I don't stand behind much of my old writing, some of it literally decades old now. I've been online since I was a teenager; obviously not everything has aged well. You don't have to forget the past, but you have to be willing to give people second chances in life.

Like all perfectionists, he's found that he's not always happy with his past self. He wants an undo button for reality. He knows he can't have it but is still unable to accept it. Even now.

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