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US sales of guns and ammunition soar amid coronavirus panic buying

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Re: US sales of guns and ammunition soar amid coronavirus panic buying

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Post by throwaway17767 »

gus_massa wrote: post #6
skrowl wrote: post #3

A lot of media trying to push this as hillbillies/rednecks wanting to defend their hoard of toilet paper are short-sighted. Panic & fear cause people to make unpredictable poor decisions, and you never know if that could affect you and your family. In the USA, you have a right to defend yourself and these people are just choosing to do that. Please don't demonize them for just wanting to protect themselves and their…

Having a gun in your home also increase the probability that one of your kids can find it and kill another of your kids by accident. It is a tradeoff.

or a knife. or an open window.

if you do everything wrong, like keep guns and ammo associated, or just keep a loaded gun in your nightstand, maybe.

then again, many of us rural folks grew up hunting and shooting from age six. somehow we never decided to blast a friend or family member in the face. chalk it up to family values and gun safety lessons I guess!

most of the increased mortality related to gun ownership, is from suicide.

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Post by HarryHirsch »

allovernow wrote: post #2

Between the economy, the oil price war, the politicization of politics, and most pressingly the virus, 2019ncov is proving to be the potential trigger for wide scale geopolitical change and possibly insecurity. States are going to go into quarantine one by one with little to no coordination. Governments and law agencies will be commandeering emergency powers. We are sitting on a major pressure point and it's impossib…

politicization of politics

That's a good one, it reveals an unexpected, deep truth.

Re: US sales of guns and ammunition soar amid coronavirus panic buying

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Post by throwaway17767 »

phs318u wrote: post #8

As a non-American, I’m imagining this scene playing out with armed people. https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2020/03/07/coronavi... Far from making fun of Americans, I am scared for them. This crisis has already proven how irrational people can be, and rapidly we revert to basic tribalism, giving in to base instincts. Adding (even more) guns to this mix is a bad sign. But in an environment where trust in autho…

you're afraid people will murder each other in times of strife?

if you really think this will devolve into violence, then you aught to understand what the firearms are being bought for. it's not to go mad max on somebody.

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Post by chrisco255 »

gus_massa wrote: post #6
skrowl wrote: post #3

A lot of media trying to push this as hillbillies/rednecks wanting to defend their hoard of toilet paper are short-sighted. Panic & fear cause people to make unpredictable poor decisions, and you never know if that could affect you and your family. In the USA, you have a right to defend yourself and these people are just choosing to do that. Please don't demonize them for just wanting to protect themselves and their…

Having a gun in your home also increase the probability that one of your kids can find it and kill another of your kids by accident. It is a tradeoff.

Respect for firearms is an extremely important skill to teach a child. Having grown up hunting, this was taught to me at a very young age. But more kids die from drowning in pools than from accidental firearm discharges, and it's also important to teach your child water safety and swimming skills.

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Post by Koshkin »

phs318u wrote: post #8

As a non-American, I’m imagining this scene playing out with armed people. https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2020/03/07/coronavi... Far from making fun of Americans, I am scared for them. This crisis has already proven how irrational people can be, and rapidly we revert to basic tribalism, giving in to base instincts. Adding (even more) guns to this mix is a bad sign. But in an environment where trust in autho…

> people you might be defending yourselves from are probably just as desperate

Somehow I am having a hard time empathizing with people I am put in the position of having to defend myself from.

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Post by time0ut »

fre3k wrote: post #7

Personally I've been wanting to do a bulk ammo buy for a while, and realized there was going to be a run so I dumped 1000 bucks into some ammo for all the calibers I own. I'm also in the process of building an AR-10, and have slowly been accumulating parts. Decided to pull the trigger on some of the more expensive parts this week because I caught some good deals. It's not all panic buying.

I was going to put an order in cause I've got a couple shoots coming up. Everything was in stock Friday. I went to buy today and everything but some of the more obscure cartridges are sold out. It is pretty crazy.

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Post by mindcrime »

sorokod wrote: post #16

In a stressed society with low friction access to fierams, buying an assault rifle is just working your way towards Nash equilibrium. Terrifying.

Do you mean an actual assault rifle, or just a "scary black gun" that is functionally equivalent to any other modern semi-automatic hunting rifle (and shoots lower powered rounds than many common hunting rifles)?

If it's the former, there's nothing low-friction about it. You have to fill out more forms, pay more money, get more background checks, etc. etc., yadda yadda, and you can't buy any such weapon manufactured after 1986.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/its-still-legal-to-own-a-...

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Post by LifeLiverTransp »

To be honest i always found the idea to defend ones home in america ridiculous. They are built from wood. Most of them. One molotow cocktail or burning arrow and bow from looters, and you are literaly toast - AR15 or not.

The only thing keeping you alive and well is the social fabrique. If its torn, now would be a good point to start mending it.

Im way more worried, what will happen in all those countries that where under the thumb of the us-military, the day those soldiers do no longer get paid or get backup from overseas, in bases surrounded by people who have generations of grudges.

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Post by jsjddbbwj »

sorokod wrote: post #5
skrowl wrote: post #3

A lot of media trying to push this as hillbillies/rednecks wanting to defend their hoard of toilet paper are short-sighted. Panic & fear cause people to make unpredictable poor decisions, and you never know if that could affect you and your family. In the USA, you have a right to defend yourself and these people are just choosing to do that. Please don't demonize them for just wanting to protect themselves and their…

This article explicitly mentions Asian Americans, hardly your typical hillbillies.

So like in Los Angeles riots?
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