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Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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Post by waynecochran »

Pfhreak wrote: post #4
waynecochran wrote: post #2

How do you differentiate influenza from covid-19? These folks probably just have the flu. I live in WA state and I had the worst case of the flu I can remember about 3 weeks ago. Did I have covid-19? No way to really know.

From the article: "There are also two confirmed cases associated with the nursing facility." Also, there was recently a death from Coronavirus in Seattle, and there has been community transmission in the nearby neighborhood of Mill Creek. So, what evidence do you have that that "these folks probably have the flu"? At best you are dismissing concerns, at worst you are making things worse by trying to convince people n…

Statistically it is still far more likely that they had the flu. I think it is dangerous to overstate the problem because then when it really does become an issue it will be dismissed because of all the previous folks "crying wolf."

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Post by greglindahl »

waynecochran wrote: post #7
belltaco wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With a coronavirus test. The CDC screwed the pooch by shipping defective kits and restricting the criteria for getting tested.

Yes, but these folks were not tested correct?

I know this is a fast moving topic, but the kerfluffle from last Wednesday about the person not tested for 4 days has caused testing to become much broader. For example, on Thursday, Santa Clara County ran a local test that confirmed the community-spread patient that's in a hospital in Mountain View. So a lot more testing is going on than was the case Wednesday and earlier.

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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Post by jlmorton »

waynecochran wrote: post #11
Pfhreak wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: "There are also two confirmed cases associated with the nursing facility." Also, there was recently a death from Coronavirus in Seattle, and there has been community transmission in the nearby neighborhood of Mill Creek. So, what evidence do you have that that "these folks probably have the flu"? At best you are dismissing concerns, at worst you are making things worse by trying to convince people n…

Statistically it is still far more likely that they had the flu. I think it is dangerous to overstate the problem because then when it really does become an issue it will be dismissed because of all the previous folks "crying wolf."

At this point, it's much more likely that these residents and staff were exposed to Covid-19. We know of two confirmed cases at this facility, and no confirmed cases of influenza. Given our knowledge of the contagiousness of Covid-19, it would make little sense to assume this cluster of respiratory illnesses is not Covid-19.

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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Post by waynecochran »

jjulius wrote: post #3
waynecochran wrote: post #2

How do you differentiate influenza from covid-19? These folks probably just have the flu. I live in WA state and I had the worst case of the flu I can remember about 3 weeks ago. Did I have covid-19? No way to really know.

>These folks probably just have the flu. Perhaps you're missing the part of the article that says: >There are also two confirmed cases associated with the nursing facility. I'm not trying to say they definitely have it, but it's foolish to brush this aside as "probably just the flu" when they appear to have been exposed to the virus.

My response was largely from my own wondering about my situation. I live in WA state and I fly to CA every week. I was super sick -- fever, chills, respiratory issues, etc... I just came to the conclusion that it is far more likely I had the flu, but I really don't know.

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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Post by Pfhreak »

waynecochran wrote: post #11
Pfhreak wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: "There are also two confirmed cases associated with the nursing facility." Also, there was recently a death from Coronavirus in Seattle, and there has been community transmission in the nearby neighborhood of Mill Creek. So, what evidence do you have that that "these folks probably have the flu"? At best you are dismissing concerns, at worst you are making things worse by trying to convince people n…

Statistically it is still far more likely that they had the flu. I think it is dangerous to overstate the problem because then when it really does become an issue it will be dismissed because of all the previous folks "crying wolf."

You can test for influenza. In that article I didn't see, "tested positive for influenza". I did see "tested positive for coronavirus".

So no, I don't think it's statistically more likely that ill patients around a highly contagious disease randomly picked up something else.

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Post by ThePhysicist »

waynecochran wrote: post #2

How do you differentiate influenza from covid-19? These folks probably just have the flu. I live in WA state and I had the worst case of the flu I can remember about 3 weeks ago. Did I have covid-19? No way to really know.

There’s an RNA based test procedure that can differentiate Covid-19 from the Flu, I think it’s what everyone is using.

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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Post by ishwarn »

waynecochran wrote: post #14
jjulius wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>These folks probably just have the flu. Perhaps you're missing the part of the article that says: >There are also two confirmed cases associated with the nursing facility. I'm not trying to say they definitely have it, but it's foolish to brush this aside as "probably just the flu" when they appear to have been exposed to the virus.

My response was largely from my own wondering about my situation. I live in WA state and I fly to CA every week. I was super sick -- fever, chills, respiratory issues, etc... I just came to the conclusion that it is far more likely I had the flu, but I really don't know.

You should consider telling your doctor.

edit: I now see you said 3 weeks ago, so that may not be helpful.

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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Post by didericis »

waynecochran wrote: post #11
Pfhreak wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: "There are also two confirmed cases associated with the nursing facility." Also, there was recently a death from Coronavirus in Seattle, and there has been community transmission in the nearby neighborhood of Mill Creek. So, what evidence do you have that that "these folks probably have the flu"? At best you are dismissing concerns, at worst you are making things worse by trying to convince people n…

Statistically it is still far more likely that they had the flu. I think it is dangerous to overstate the problem because then when it really does become an issue it will be dismissed because of all the previous folks "crying wolf."

Not to be too snarky, but your response could be seen as precisely the kind of dismissive response you’re trying to prevent.

Now is the time to be vigilant. I’d rather have too many people thinking they have this and self isolating/getting tested than too few.

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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Post by kabdib »

waynecochran wrote: post #2

How do you differentiate influenza from covid-19? These folks probably just have the flu. I live in WA state and I had the worst case of the flu I can remember about 3 weeks ago. Did I have covid-19? No way to really know.

Bellevue, WA here; I had a very bad case of the flu in early Feb (worst I can remember) and it took 3+ weeks to fully recover. Many cow-orkers were also affected (some meetings with 30+ people were down to a handful of people . . . not a bad thing under the circumstances).

Our "patient zero" was a dev who came into work for a day with a cough.

If you're sick, please stay home.

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