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Online altruists making Reddit more accessible

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Re: Online altruists making Reddit more accessible

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Nothing will happen, exactly like the last 14 years with the employees being paid salaries while users run the site for free. Why do you think an IPO will be treated differently?

(deimorz is former Reddit staff and now operates a Reddit competitor)

I don’t know how that makes a difference to his comment. Which is exactly what I was thinking.

Re: Online altruists making Reddit more accessible

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing will happen, exactly like the last 14 years with the employees being paid salaries while users run the site for free. Why do you think an IPO will be treated differently?

(deimorz is former Reddit staff and now operates a Reddit competitor)

I also probably did thousands of hours of unpaid moderation and development work on Reddit before I worked there.

None of that's very relevant here though, other than showing that I'm intimately familiar with the dynamic from spending a lot of time on both sides of it.

Re: Online altruists making Reddit more accessible

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What is going to happen when Reddit ipo’s and the employees benefit financially from it, but the moderators who actually make reddit what it is get nothing?

Do moderators expect to get paid?

They get paid in the satisfaction of exerting control over others, enforcing their bias in a community, and generally feeling powerful. That's the kind of person who tends to self-select to delete posts and ban people all day for free. Moderation gets so bad on reddit (visible from subreddits like watchredditdie and nolockedthreads) that many communities would be better off self-policed solely by up/down votes, all tradeoffs like spam and bad posts considered against the tyranny.

Re: Online altruists making Reddit more accessible

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(deimorz is former Reddit staff and now operates a Reddit competitor)

I don’t know how that makes a difference to his comment. Which is exactly what I was thinking.

i don't know that it does make a difference to his comment, but on HN it's a standard practice (that i like) to disclose when commenting on your employers and competitors.

Re: Online altruists making Reddit more accessible

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I don’t know how that makes a difference to his comment. Which is exactly what I was thinking.

i don't know that it does make a difference to his comment, but on HN it's a standard practice (that i like) to disclose when commenting on your employers and competitors.

I understand your feeling, but it's also HN standard practice to assume good faith.

I think the first comment is quite short and, while it doesn't bring a lot to the table I think it's a feeling echoed by a many in the current community. (Not necessarily me, but the zeitgeist seems to be there). So, in this light, doing a disclosure on each and every comment is... Unreasonable, especially if it's something you feel deeply about.

Re: Online altruists making Reddit more accessible

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Close your eyes. Now listen to a discussion among a bunch of people about an image they are looking at. Would you appreciate being given a description of the image first, or would you rather just hear them talk about something you have not seen?

This didn't answer the question. For we know it only added your biases. What do actual people this is relevant to say? What do the actual users of this think?

Every response adds in the person’s personal biases.

Re: Online altruists making Reddit more accessible

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i don't know that it does make a difference to his comment, but on HN it's a standard practice (that i like) to disclose when commenting on your employers and competitors.

I understand your feeling, but it's also HN standard practice to assume good faith. I think the first comment is quite short and, while it doesn't bring a lot to the table I think it's a feeling echoed by a many in the current community. (Not necessarily me, but the zeitgeist seems to be there). So, in this light, doing a disclosure on each and every comment is... Unreasonable, especially if it's something you feel d…

They're not mutually exclusive and in fact are mutually reinforcing. As readers of a comment we are expected to read it charitably and part of that is assuming that the writer is not shilling. On the other hand we expect writers to disclose major conflicts of interest and I would categorize a direct competitor as a major conflict of interest (note I'm not calling deimorz a shill and do think his/her comment reflects a common sentiment, but I appreciate the knowledge that deimorz is working on a competitor).

The latter breeds the trust for the former to work.

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