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Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by allovernow »

sschueller wrote: post #8

The Swiss government issued the following guidelines [1] to prevent further spread of the virus. Masks are considered useless unless you are infected. - Wash your hands thoroughly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvcvvRp3lsY - Cough and sneeze into a paper tissue/handerchief or the crook of your arm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3_rFPtQgKE - If you experience shortness of breath, have a cough or fever: • Stay at…

>Masks are considered useless unless you are infected

Considering there are multiple papers out of china which suggest the virus is aerosolized, I think it's irresponsible for anyone to claim masks are useless PPE. Anything less than n99 or p99 might be useless, but that's a different story.

There's also one paper which claims that treating a mask with saline solution makes it substantially more effective against viruses. I'll see if I can't dig it up.

Governments the world over have already demonstrated that they cannot be trusted to properly handle this virus.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by slovenlyrobot »

wolco wrote: post #12
hsnewman wrote: post #3

This implies that our government is managing the propaganda around Covid-19 by simply not testing suspected cases. Is this true?

yes and extend that to many governments.

It appears to be pretty much all western governments. at least 3 countries in the middle east appear to be pretty transparent, including surprisingly, Iran

The level of censorship around unquestionably authentic videos coming out of China has left me in a deep state of shock

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by wolco »

101404 wrote: post #9
dredmorbius wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To a substantial extent, yes. UC Davis Medical Center statement on refusal of CDC to grant permissions to test suspected patient: https://health.ucdavis.edu/health-news/contenthub/novel-coro... "UC Davis Health does not control the testing process." Florida refusal to release testing data: https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/02/27/flo... Note that Spring Break in the US, in which about 10 million colle…

> consume substances I find this kind of euphemism use really weird. "Substances"? Water is a "substance". A carpet is too. Why not just say what one is actually referring to?

Beer, wine, rum and maybe some herbal drugs.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by 76543210 »

So is there a way to prepare our bodies for getting sick? Me and my wife and our 8 month old live 40 hours a week in public, so it's going to happen.

We already eat healthy, me and the wife workout. But the kid? Not sure how to prepare him.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by endorphone »

sschueller wrote: post #8

The Swiss government issued the following guidelines [1] to prevent further spread of the virus. Masks are considered useless unless you are infected. - Wash your hands thoroughly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvcvvRp3lsY - Cough and sneeze into a paper tissue/handerchief or the crook of your arm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3_rFPtQgKE - If you experience shortness of breath, have a cough or fever: • Stay at…

Masks are considered useless unless you are infected.

This is a bizarre claim that can be countered against the reality that every front-line worker is equipped with a mask.

EDIT: Almost immediately I dropped to -2. Bizarre. Again, every health agency the world over equips health workers who deal with potential COVID-19 with N95+ masks. For some reason people desperately want to clutch onto the notion that it's useless because otherwise..uncomfortable and uncool mask, right? Another poster mentioned that the source didn't even state that about masks, but instead about surgical masks which is a tiny subset.

-Masks prevent aerosolized matter (e.g. a sneeze) from getting at mucous membranes (where it needs to get to yield an infection).

-Masks prevent you from touching your hands to the vulnerable areas of your face. It is effectively a check. So when you touch that door handle leaving the subway station it's far less likely you'll transfer to your mouth or nose, and we naturally touch our face thousands of times a day. Ideally one would have a mental process they follow where you clean thoroughly before taking it off.

Those alone seem like an absolutely enormous win for masks.

https://time.com/5785223/medical-masks-coronavirus-covid-19/

https://www.livescience.com/respirators-prevent-coronavirus-...

I'm certainly not at the point where I'm going to wear a mask in public, but the whole "Hurrr masks don't work at all" seems like either disinformation (e.g. stop buying all the masks because we want them), or people trying to comfort themselves in some bizarre way. Every bit of evidence says otherwise.

The moderation through this is absolutely cartoonish and ignorant.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by Consultant32452 »

allovernow wrote: post #11
sschueller wrote: post #8

The Swiss government issued the following guidelines [1] to prevent further spread of the virus. Masks are considered useless unless you are infected. - Wash your hands thoroughly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvcvvRp3lsY - Cough and sneeze into a paper tissue/handerchief or the crook of your arm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3_rFPtQgKE - If you experience shortness of breath, have a cough or fever: • Stay at…

>Masks are considered useless unless you are infected Considering there are multiple papers out of china which suggest the virus is aerosolized, I think it's irresponsible for anyone to claim masks are useless PPE. Anything less than n99 or p99 might be useless, but that's a different story. There's also one paper which claims that treating a mask with saline solution makes it substantially more effective against vir…

Governments have other concerns besides your individual health. They need to prevent panic as much as possible, prevent economic collapse, etc. The response to events like this can be worse than the initial problem.

What do you think happens if the CDC says everyone needs to wear masks, you go to your local store, and there are no masks? There would be violence in the streets.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by sjg007 »

76543210 wrote: post #15

So is there a way to prepare our bodies for getting sick? Me and my wife and our 8 month old live 40 hours a week in public, so it's going to happen. We already eat healthy, me and the wife workout. But the kid? Not sure how to prepare him.

Young kids appear to be unaffected currently. Not sure if this will change but also if your kid is breastfeeding then he be protected by mom's immune system. I would minimize people holding him that aren't you or your wife and obviously wash hands frequently.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by [deleted] »

endorphone wrote: post #16
sschueller wrote: post #8

The Swiss government issued the following guidelines [1] to prevent further spread of the virus. Masks are considered useless unless you are infected. - Wash your hands thoroughly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvcvvRp3lsY - Cough and sneeze into a paper tissue/handerchief or the crook of your arm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3_rFPtQgKE - If you experience shortness of breath, have a cough or fever: • Stay at…

Masks are considered useless unless you are infected. This is a bizarre claim that can be countered against the reality that every front-line worker is equipped with a mask. EDIT: Almost immediately I dropped to -2. Bizarre. Again, every health agency the world over equips health workers who deal with potential COVID-19 with N95+ masks. For some reason people desperately want to clutch onto the notion that it's usele…

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Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by loriverkutya »

slovenlyrobot wrote: post #13
wolco wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes and extend that to many governments.

It appears to be pretty much all western governments. at least 3 countries in the middle east appear to be pretty transparent, including surprisingly, Iran The level of censorship around unquestionably authentic videos coming out of China has left me in a deep state of shock

You must be joking about Iran, based on pure math, it’s clear they are lying about the number.
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