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Interview with David Heinemeier Hansson on climate change

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Re: Interview with David Heinemeier Hansson on climate change

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DHH is misusing the term “red pill” here. He’s saying he’s accepted an inevitable negative outcome, not that he’s been exposed to a hidden truth. The term he’s looking for is “black pill.”

Nice username. You made a throwaway just to post this?

Re: Interview with David Heinemeier Hansson on climate change

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Last year was the first year I owned (and regularly used) a car, which made me think about mitigating my carbon footprint a little bit more seriously than paying the 'carbon tax' on my flights. Like David says the offset projects all seem kind of snake-oil'y, so I looked for something that actually changes something in the world for the better. So far, building green infrastructure seems attractive, but I fear that i…

>For example, in ideal conditions a tree might accumulate 20kg of CO2 in 40 years.

Are you sure it is not 20kg of CO2 every year for 40 years? After all, dry wood is half carbon approximately.

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Facing climate change fills you with dread . . . until you act. Then you see all the reasons not to act as self-serving rationalization. When you find the joy, community, and connection of acting on your environmental values. When you realize that stopping all this polluting activity improves your life, you want to do more. People will comment that what one person does doesn't matter and other self-serving rationaliz…

I'm attracted to the idea that acting makes you feel better. But how do you take part in the economy, for instance, without adding to the catastrophe? How do you socialize without emitting carbon? I feel like I'd have to join some sort of cult if I were to both take care of my material and socializing needs, and live a carbon neutral lifestyle. And then again, would I feel satisfied with a carbon neutral lifestyle? W…

You can't fix this alone. You can't even lead by example and get results, because a sustainable lifestyle in terms of climate change essentially has you living under a bridge if you account for your share of infrastructure. Personal responsibility is just not going to be the solution, so we need to look elsewhere.

I need to clarify here that I agree with GP that taking personal action is empowering and can lead you down a virtuous path. I just think that the goal needs to be changing society, not changing your own life. So if you want to make a difference, you have to be part of society. You have to take part in the economy, even if that means you will personally directly contribute more to the problem than you would if you went full hermit in the woods. There's no simple solution, but if there is one at all, it has to involve a lot of people working together.

Re: Interview with David Heinemeier Hansson on climate change

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Last year was the first year I owned (and regularly used) a car, which made me think about mitigating my carbon footprint a little bit more seriously than paying the 'carbon tax' on my flights. Like David says the offset projects all seem kind of snake-oil'y, so I looked for something that actually changes something in the world for the better. So far, building green infrastructure seems attractive, but I fear that i…

There is no way to offset carbon currently, the programmes that try to handle carbon recapture are in infancy or snake oil or just do not work.

The best we could do is to scrape the car and go high efficiency electric. And switch to public transport where applicable, bulk deliveries rather than couriers for transport. Local products to limit total transport too.

Ultimately, we will have to devise a plan for food production and water availability to continue on hotter planet, and making the conditions comfortable without contributing to the problem. (passive air conditioning, building design etc.)

Re: Interview with David Heinemeier Hansson on climate change

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Last year was the first year I owned (and regularly used) a car, which made me think about mitigating my carbon footprint a little bit more seriously than paying the 'carbon tax' on my flights. Like David says the offset projects all seem kind of snake-oil'y, so I looked for something that actually changes something in the world for the better. So far, building green infrastructure seems attractive, but I fear that i…

>For example, in ideal conditions a tree might accumulate 20kg of CO2 in 40 years. Are you sure it is not 20kg of CO2 every year for 40 years? After all, dry wood is half carbon approximately.

Woops you're totally right, so that's shaves off a lot. I found a resource that says a young tree captures about 5kg per year. The 20kg per year figure is for a 10 year old tree. That brings it down to having to plant about 110 trees every year for 5 years.

Re: Interview with David Heinemeier Hansson on climate change

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The climate change debate is confused because a lot of people mix it with their own tangential and irrelevant issues. For example, broader environmental issues like plastic trash. If you're throwing carbon in a landfill and it doesn't decompose, it's not climate change. You may hate it, but it doesn't cause climate change, because that carbon went from being on the ground to being in the ground. And I'm not picking o…

> If you're throwing carbon in a landfill and it doesn't decompose, it's not climate change.

If it goes in landfill, it's not being reused or recycled to prevent more carbon from being produced to make something new. Some recycling processes are fairly energy intensive so the carbon savings are not always significant but recycling still reduces demand to extract more raw materials.

Re: Interview with David Heinemeier Hansson on climate change

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm attracted to the idea that acting makes you feel better. But how do you take part in the economy, for instance, without adding to the catastrophe? How do you socialize without emitting carbon? I feel like I'd have to join some sort of cult if I were to both take care of my material and socializing needs, and live a carbon neutral lifestyle. And then again, would I feel satisfied with a carbon neutral lifestyle? W…

You can't fix this alone. You can't even lead by example and get results, because a sustainable lifestyle in terms of climate change essentially has you living under a bridge if you account for your share of infrastructure. Personal responsibility is just not going to be the solution, so we need to look elsewhere. I need to clarify here that I agree with GP that taking personal action is empowering and can lead you d…

GP back again. I did a podcast episode on the point of personal action and the difference from influencing others, which I also do: https://shows.acast.com/leadership-and-the-environment/episo...

Re: Interview with David Heinemeier Hansson on climate change

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DHH is misusing the term “red pill” here. He’s saying he’s accepted an inevitable negative outcome, not that he’s been exposed to a hidden truth. The term he’s looking for is “black pill.”

Nice username. You made a throwaway just to post this ?

Do you have a less vague criticism with what I posted?
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