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Re: Pwn.college

#11
Check out:

https://blog.ret2.io/2018/09/11/scalable-security-education/ These guys have built an epic b0f research education platform - could be also sold as a cloud-based research platform for vuln developers

Another one is https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClcE-kVhqyiHCcjYwcpfj9w/vid... for mostly C/C++ overflow type education

Re: Pwn.college

#14

Looking forward to the collection of modules. Right now I'd say it's a bit too linux centric. Especially when it comes to bringing cypersecurity concepts to new people I think it's usually better to start with basic stuff like SQL injection ('bobby tables') or ARP spoofing. They even state it's aimed at white belts, yet have slides about the different rings in a linux kernel. But maybe that's just my perception. Grea…

A beginner in offensive cyber security/infosec is better off learning Burp and common web app vulnerabilities.

In my opinion that is.

Re: Pwn.college

#15

Check out: https://blog.ret2.io/2018/09/11/scalable-security-education/ These guys have built an epic b0f research education platform - could be also sold as a cloud-based research platform for vuln developers Another one is https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClcE-kVhqyiHCcjYwcpfj9w/vid... for mostly C/C++ overflow type education

> could be also sold as a cloud-based research platform for vuln developers

You'd have a tough time getting any public Cloud provider to allow you to run known vulnerable software, on purpose, on their network and then exposing it to the Internet.

If you kept it under a decent amount of network security and heavily restricted access it might work.

I would suspect you'd need permission to set this up, though.

Re: Pwn.college

#16
Another software exploit thing that appears to be entirely Linux centered. Nothing against it but this doesn't even touch "core cybersecurity concepts". As crappy as it is, a security+ will teach you more infosec than knowing how to write kernel rootkits and create rop gadgets in your sleep. Case in point: most "advanced" attackers (except the "equation group" lol) very very rarely use a zero day, A majority of attacks by these guys does not even see new exploits out of known public vulns. As easy and comfy as Linux is to hacker, try doing this in Windows land. You will gain a broader perspective. Just my $0.02c ,I am still glad to see more content like this.

Re: Pwn.college

#17
post #16

Another software exploit thing that appears to be entirely Linux centered. Nothing against it but this doesn't even touch "core cybersecurity concepts". As crappy as it is, a security+ will teach you more infosec than knowing how to write kernel rootkits and create rop gadgets in your sleep. Case in point: most "advanced" attackers (except the "equation group" lol) very very rarely use a zero day, A majority of attac…

spot on !!

Re: Pwn.college

#18

Looking forward to the collection of modules. Right now I'd say it's a bit too linux centric. Especially when it comes to bringing cypersecurity concepts to new people I think it's usually better to start with basic stuff like SQL injection ('bobby tables') or ARP spoofing. They even state it's aimed at white belts, yet have slides about the different rings in a linux kernel. But maybe that's just my perception. Grea…

A beginner in offensive cyber security/infosec is better off learning Burp and common web app vulnerabilities. In my opinion that is.

That's exactly my point, yes.

Re: Pwn.college

#20
post #15

Check out: https://blog.ret2.io/2018/09/11/scalable-security-education/ These guys have built an epic b0f research education platform - could be also sold as a cloud-based research platform for vuln developers Another one is https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClcE-kVhqyiHCcjYwcpfj9w/vid... for mostly C/C++ overflow type education

> could be also sold as a cloud-based research platform for vuln developers You'd have a tough time getting any public Cloud provider to allow you to run known vulnerable software, on purpose, on their network and then exposing it to the Internet. If you kept it under a decent amount of network security and heavily restricted access it might work. I would suspect you'd need permission to set this up, though.

True. I think the biggest buyer of this would be gov institutions that are constantly looking for building their offensive capabilities (mainly around exploit dev) but find it hard to get new recruits trained up. The alternatives are mostly instructor-led training which is good but combined with this type of platform + remote assistance via chat etc could scale things up.
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