I don't completely understand what gives them the right to do so - legislation are still in place, GDPR & the rest are included.
Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
> British law also N.Irish people to declare themselves Irish under the GFA This by itself doesn't mean anything for GDPR—GDPR applies to EU residents (whether or not they are EU citizens), not EU citizens. Declaring yourself Irish doesn't make you fall under GDPR protection if you live outside the EU.
I am not sure if this entirely true. My understanding was it was both citizens and residents.
This link [0] seems to suggest otherwise.
[0]: https://www.hipaajournal.com/does-gdpr-apply-to-eu-citizens-...
Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
> British law also N.Irish people to declare themselves Irish under the GFA This by itself doesn't mean anything for GDPR—GDPR applies to EU residents (whether or not they are EU citizens), not EU citizens. Declaring yourself Irish doesn't make you fall under GDPR protection if you live outside the EU.
I am not sure if this entirely true. My understanding was it was both citizens and residents.
GDPR applies to EU & EEA residents.
Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction
#14I don't completely understand what gives them the right to do so - legislation are still in place, GDPR & the rest are included.
GDPR only applies to EU residents, doesn't it?
Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
> British law also N.Irish people to declare themselves Irish under the GFA This by itself doesn't mean anything for GDPR—GDPR applies to EU residents (whether or not they are EU citizens), not EU citizens. Declaring yourself Irish doesn't make you fall under GDPR protection if you live outside the EU.
GDPR applies to EU citizens globally. It's just not enforced globally. The company will have to be large enough to have a presense (or future presense) in the EU for there to be an tangible impact. >Declaring yourself Irish doesn't make you fall under GDPR protection if you live outside the EU. I'm a DPO and this is absolutely incorrect.
Can you provide a source? All information I'm able to find says that it applies to EU & EEA residents, with no mention of citizenship being relevant.
Edited to add: https://edpb.europa.eu/sites/edpb/files/files/file1/edpb_gui... (it's not even residency that is key - just being present in the EU+EEA)
Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction
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#17It is real. I just got an email about this from Google about my gmail account: - Your service provider and data controller is now Google LLC: Because the UK is leaving the EU, we’ve updated our Terms so that a United States-based company, Google LLC, is now your service provider instead of Google Ireland Limited. Google LLC will also become the data controller responsible for your information and complying with appli…
> These changes to our Terms and privacy policy don’t affect your privacy settings or the way that we treat your information.
This is such a blatant lie what the hell. The only reason for this move is specifically to treat your information in ways that are not legal now.
Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction
#18I don't completely understand what gives them the right to do so - legislation are still in place, GDPR & the rest are included.
GDPR only applies to EU residents, doesn't it?
Yeah, the UK didn't fell out of the EU. There's a transition period that just started and right now, there's basically no change yet.
Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction
#19It is real. I just got an email about this from Google about my gmail account: - Your service provider and data controller is now Google LLC: Because the UK is leaving the EU, we’ve updated our Terms so that a United States-based company, Google LLC, is now your service provider instead of Google Ireland Limited. Google LLC will also become the data controller responsible for your information and complying with appli…
It seems very early to be making changes like this.
Google must really benefit somehow from the change, otherwise they could leave it until much later in the year, and see what (if any) changes Parliament makes to privacy and data protection law in the UK.
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#20The optics of this might look bad, but I cannot really fault Google for this move (and I frequently fault Google).
They're facing a dilemma of regulatory uncertainty, and this move resolves this dilemma for them (at least, they seem to believe that).
Anyone who has ever dealt with powerful regulatory agencies will probably agree that this resolution is the right move for the company, a move important enough that eating some bad PR is probably totally worth it.
(The point about powerful regulatory agencies is not that it's hard to stay compliant; it's that the costs, overhead, bureaucracy etc. of demonstrating this compliance is immense, even if you are doing everything 100% right.)