Anybody know how he made those treemaps?
Mythical man month: 10 lines per developer day
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Re: Mythical man month: 10 lines per developer day
#12What annoys me most about these metrics is that some days zero lines are written. Anything up to a month without results to show. Where, then, does all this time go? Sometimes it's reading existing code. Sometimes it's learning about a new algorithm by reading blogs and papers. Sometimes it's developing test programs to iron out a bug or test out some new code. There used to be one chap in the office that got all the…
Some of my favourite days on the job is when you remove lines of code. Does that metric go against LOC/written?
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#13Guys, can I be honest? I have never actually met anyone who has worked in a LOC-optimized company. This stuff seems like the outrage porn of software engineering.
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#14Anybody know how he made those treemaps?
Re: Mythical man month: 10 lines per developer day
#15What annoys me most about these metrics is that some days zero lines are written. Anything up to a month without results to show. Where, then, does all this time go? Sometimes it's reading existing code. Sometimes it's learning about a new algorithm by reading blogs and papers. Sometimes it's developing test programs to iron out a bug or test out some new code. There used to be one chap in the office that got all the…
At one job, I replaced a 10k LOC class with a 20 line function which probably took me to a net negative loc count for that job.
I would love to hear more details on this one
Re: Mythical man month: 10 lines per developer day
#16What annoys me most about these metrics is that some days zero lines are written. Anything up to a month without results to show. Where, then, does all this time go? Sometimes it's reading existing code. Sometimes it's learning about a new algorithm by reading blogs and papers. Sometimes it's developing test programs to iron out a bug or test out some new code. There used to be one chap in the office that got all the…
Some of my favourite days on the job is when you remove lines of code. Does that metric go against LOC/written?
Reminds me of https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Negative_2000_Li...
I once had a senior manager who insisted that developers made at least one commit a day (an internal GitHub like tool gamified this: number of lines committed since last month / top committers in the team etc), and those that didn't, had to up their game.
It was frustrating to say the least as this was not the only metric. There were a handful and, frankly, many made a mockery of it by doing just as much or less work than before but achieving or even surpassing the said metrics.
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#17If you are doing a good refactoring, you may have a massive negative LoC at the end. LoC added or removed is not a very good metric for anything. Except if I see a big negative number on a PR, it is usually a great thing. I still have to check what was removed but it usually mean that things are easier to understand.
Anytime I see a good chunk of redundant/useless code removed, it's a good day!
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#18How I explain why LoC is a bad metric to non-techsavvy people.
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And so is 3 * 15.
Re: Mythical man month: 10 lines per developer day
#19How I explain why LoC is a bad metric to non-techsavvy people. 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 = 45 And so is 3 * 15.
I once had to work with some outsourced developers who would do "something(); something(); something();..." rather than "for(int i = 0; i < 10; i++) something();" when instructed to repeat something X times.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some of my favourite days on the job is when you remove lines of code. Does that metric go against LOC/written?
Reminds me of https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Negative_2000_Li... I once had a senior manager who insisted that developers made at least one commit a day (an internal GitHub like tool gamified this: number of lines committed since last month / top committers in the team etc), and those that didn't, had to up their game . It was frustrating to say the least as this was not the only metric . There were a ha…
It's quite normal for it helpdesk teams doing all the users password reset tickets to "outperform" the teams fixing server issues based on "tickets closed" metrics