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Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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Re: Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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I'm curious, for most of the infected, is it obvious from the symptoms whether they have novel coronavirus, or just the regular flu?

That is, the tail end is clearly deadly -- but for the average case, are symptoms much worse than the yearly flu, or around the same?

Re: Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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I've learned more about the virus reading this article than anything else I've read over the past weeks.

If you want detailed virological and epidemiological research and discussion, please see: http://virological.org/

There are other virology / epidemiology forums which may be of use, but I don't have these links at-hand.

For instance, the following link is a highly descriptive, accessible analysis of nCoV-2019: http://virological.org/t/analysis-of-wuhan-coronavirus-deja-...

OPs article does have merit, as far as giving a first-person account of treating the virus and quarantine procedures, but you'll learn a lot more about the virus itself if you follow the research.

Re: Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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"The most regretful thing to me was a pregnant woman from Huanggang. She was in very serious condition. Nearly 200,000 yuan (S$39,505) was spent after more than a week in the ICU. She was from the countryside, and the money for hospitalisation was borrowed from her relatives and friends. Her condition was improving after the use of Ecmo, and she was likely to survive. But her husband decided to give up. He cried for…

> And exactly the next day, the government announced a new policy that offers free treatment for all coronavirus-infected patients.

According to some Twitter videos I saw from Wuhan that is not actually the case, as in supposedly the local hospitals still ask people for money. There are also cases like this one [1] of people not being let in even though their relatives have paid some money.

This latter link might also be interesting for the HN crowd as the lady from the video can be heard shouting at a hospital security guard that het older mother wasn't able to pay the money through any phone apps (supposedly because of her age and her not knowing to use this modern stuff), which made me think again about how eliminating cash and person-to-person transactions is really detrimental for large swaths of the population (in this case older and sick people).

[1] https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1224959223915827200

Re: Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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"The most regretful thing to me was a pregnant woman from Huanggang. She was in very serious condition. Nearly 200,000 yuan (S$39,505) was spent after more than a week in the ICU. She was from the countryside, and the money for hospitalisation was borrowed from her relatives and friends. Her condition was improving after the use of Ecmo, and she was likely to survive. But her husband decided to give up. He cried for…

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Re: Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I submitted this already, but this is worth reading also: https://www.fwdeveryone.com/t/puzmZFQGRTiiquwLa6tT-g/confere...

Thanks for that, it was interesting and quite anti-panic.

Now it seems healthcare workers are readily getting infected.

"A study has found that 40 health-care workers were infected with the novel coronavirus by patients at a single Wuhan hospital in January, underscoring the risks to those at the frontlines of the growing epidemic."

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/coronavirus-chin...

Re: Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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I'm curious, for most of the infected, is it obvious from the symptoms whether they have novel coronavirus, or just the regular flu? That is, the tail end is clearly deadly -- but for the average case, are symptoms much worse than the yearly flu, or around the same?

Most have problem breathing and require hospitalization. Thats the main problem with this disease, it overwhelms the health system with this cases.

Re: Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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"The most regretful thing to me was a pregnant woman from Huanggang. She was in very serious condition. Nearly 200,000 yuan (S$39,505) was spent after more than a week in the ICU. She was from the countryside, and the money for hospitalisation was borrowed from her relatives and friends. Her condition was improving after the use of Ecmo, and she was likely to survive. But her husband decided to give up. He cried for…

> I had the unchecked belief that China claiming to be a communist country would be covering medical costs. China is communist in name only, and has been for a very long time.

The official claim is that China is a socialist country with Chinese characteristics. It's not really true but that's the official claim. And yes, the Chinese government started to cover medical costs for coronavirus-infected patients a few days ago, which was also mentioned in the interview. I think the real problem is that with some many patients, there is simply not enough resource. I can only hope that things will get better soon.

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post #5

I've learned more about the virus reading this article than anything else I've read over the past weeks.

I submitted this already, but this is worth reading also: https://www.fwdeveryone.com/t/puzmZFQGRTiiquwLa6tT-g/confere...

That was very informative and tempers a lot of the fearmongering out there.

Re: Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU

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I'm curious, for most of the infected, is it obvious from the symptoms whether they have novel coronavirus, or just the regular flu? That is, the tail end is clearly deadly -- but for the average case, are symptoms much worse than the yearly flu, or around the same?

Most have problem breathing and require hospitalization. Thats the main problem with this disease, it overwhelms the health system with this cases.

I don’t think it’s correct that most do. I think most people have mild symptoms. I’ve seen statistics that up to half of the people that end up in the hospital die, though.
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