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Finland to give dads same parental leave as mums

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Re: Finland to give dads same parental leave as mums

#11
I'm glad this exists. When I had my kids I worked white collar jobs for large wealthy corporations, and I got exactly zero days each time. This attitude change is a step in the right direction. The problem is the people who in my opinion who need this the most (the working classes) are the ones least likely to get it (at least here in America).

Re: Finland to give dads same parental leave as mums

#12
But will they force Dads to take it? As a Dad who had two kids, I would much rather pay for childcare than take paternity leave. Would someone like me be held back artificially to promote equality?

EDIT: Not a freak, don't care for the infant stage. Happy to dote when they start to turn into people.

Re: Finland to give dads same parental leave as mums

#14

But will they force Dads to take it? As a Dad who had two kids, I would much rather pay for childcare than take paternity leave. Would someone like me be held back artificially to promote equality? EDIT: Not a freak, don't care for the infant stage. Happy to dote when they start to turn into people.

Noone is forced. It's just a 'waste' if you don't :).

Re: Finland to give dads same parental leave as mums

#15

Spain is progressively doing this. Starting 2021, men and women will have the paid same parental leave of 16 + 2 weeks (non-transferable). The main reason is fight against the discrimination from employers who think hiring women is inconvenient because they can go on parental leave for very long.

I believe men have 4 months of parental leave in Spain already, starting 2020.

Re: Finland to give dads same parental leave as mums

#16
post #14

But will they force Dads to take it? As a Dad who had two kids, I would much rather pay for childcare than take paternity leave. Would someone like me be held back artificially to promote equality? EDIT: Not a freak, don't care for the infant stage. Happy to dote when they start to turn into people.

Noone is forced. It's just a 'waste' if you don't :).

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Re: Finland to give dads same parental leave as mums

#17

But will they force Dads to take it? As a Dad who had two kids, I would much rather pay for childcare than take paternity leave. Would someone like me be held back artificially to promote equality? EDIT: Not a freak, don't care for the infant stage. Happy to dote when they start to turn into people.

It's paid leave and no you won't be forced to spend time with your infant children you freak

said with love

Re: Finland to give dads same parental leave as mums

#18
The discussion surrounding parental leave is one of the reasons I like contracting. I get paid hourly and get to set my own working conditions and benefits. If I ever get a baby, I can take as much leave as I want to make sure my wife and baby are taken care of. I don't have to lobby the government or beg my employer in order to get time off.

And to answer the question that is going to be asked: "But then you don't get paid?". Correct, but when I do work my pay is around double to triple, so I can take a whole lot of parental leave before it becomes financially irresponsible.

Re: Finland to give dads same parental leave as mums

#20
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Seems a bit bizarre seeing that mothers in most cases will need to spend more time with their babies. After all, there are certain things like breastfeeding that only a mother can do.

> After all, there are certain things like breastfeeding

Mother's can and do express milk to be fed to babies in bottles; the fact that a baby is on breastmilk doesn't require the mother to be with them 24/7, and formula is a thing that exists.

What other things are there?

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