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CalTech wins $1.1B jury verdict in patent case against Apple, Broadcom

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Re: CalTech wins $1.1B jury verdict in patent case against Apple, Broadcom

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Does anyone have information about what the patent is for? Google search shows 500 general news articles with no specific information about the lawsuit.

Here’s a blurb with the patent numbers. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2020/01/billion-verdict-caltech...

Re: CalTech wins $1.1B jury verdict in patent case against Apple, Broadcom

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If the patents were owned by a single individual instead of caltech, would the verdict be as large? They’d instantly be in the top 3000 richest people in the world.

Possibly. However, very few "single individual[s]" would have the resources to fund such inventions AND the associated patent procurement AND fund such a litigation. Moreover, this will be appealed and the final outcome could take a decade.

Your last point has me thinking - hypothetically if an individual were in this situation, could they sell 'equity' in the eventual settlement in order to take money off the table now, rather than go bankrupt from legal expenses etc and get nothing?

E.g. Sell 50% of the initially ruled $1.1B settlement for, say, $100MM.

Anything like this ever happened?

Re: CalTech wins $1.1B jury verdict in patent case against Apple, Broadcom

#13

The issues here are simply too complicated for juries to decide--particularly the amounts of money. If Apple was simply using devices it purchased from Broadcom, Broadcom should be responsible for all the damages.

> The issues here are simply too complicated for juries to decide--particularly the amounts of money.

That's why the appeals courts exist.

Re: CalTech wins $1.1B jury verdict in patent case against Apple, Broadcom

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Possibly. However, very few "single individual[s]" would have the resources to fund such inventions AND the associated patent procurement AND fund such a litigation. Moreover, this will be appealed and the final outcome could take a decade.

Your last point has me thinking - hypothetically if an individual were in this situation, could they sell 'equity' in the eventual settlement in order to take money off the table now, rather than go bankrupt from legal expenses etc and get nothing? E.g. Sell 50% of the initially ruled $1.1B settlement for, say, $100MM. Anything like this ever happened?

Yes. The term you want to search for is litigation finance.

Re: CalTech wins $1.1B jury verdict in patent case against Apple, Broadcom

#16

The issues here are simply too complicated for juries to decide--particularly the amounts of money. If Apple was simply using devices it purchased from Broadcom, Broadcom should be responsible for all the damages.

I wonder what a "jury of peers" would look like in these cases.

Re: CalTech wins $1.1B jury verdict in patent case against Apple, Broadcom

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If the patents were owned by a single individual instead of caltech, would the verdict be as large? They’d instantly be in the top 3000 richest people in the world.

What's wrong with that? If the idea behind a company is worth say 10 or 20% of the company, then the idea of limiting a blogging service to 140 characters, or the idea of blurring people's smartphone pics to make them more "artsy," have been rewarded to the billions of dollars as well.

Re: CalTech wins $1.1B jury verdict in patent case against Apple, Broadcom

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Possibly. However, very few "single individual[s]" would have the resources to fund such inventions AND the associated patent procurement AND fund such a litigation. Moreover, this will be appealed and the final outcome could take a decade.

Your last point has me thinking - hypothetically if an individual were in this situation, could they sell 'equity' in the eventual settlement in order to take money off the table now, rather than go bankrupt from legal expenses etc and get nothing? E.g. Sell 50% of the initially ruled $1.1B settlement for, say, $100MM. Anything like this ever happened?

Planet Money had an episode on it this fall.

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/02/766556249/episode-942-capital...

Re: CalTech wins $1.1B jury verdict in patent case against Apple, Broadcom

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post #10

Does anyone have information about what the patent is for? Google search shows 500 general news articles with no specific information about the lawsuit.

Here’s a blurb with the patent numbers. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2020/01/billion-verdict-caltech...

"Serial concatenation of interleaved convolutional codes forming turbo-like codes"
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