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Re: Wine 5.0

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Post by xioxox »

swiley wrote: post #5
ziotom78 wrote: post #3

Let's hope that «multi-monitor support» will help this bug [1] go away! I have found that most of the Windows apps I used to rely on have good counterparts working on Linux, but sadly nothing matches Powerpoint (no, LibreOffice does not count). [1] https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7416

What exactly makes PowerPoint so good? I’ve never really used either, I’ve mostly relied on pamdoc’s Beamer generator and google slides.

Libreoffice Present is pretty buggy. For example, sometimes clicks don't do the right thing. Also, I've had slide elements become uneditable. These bugs are really noticeable when making presentations with complex slides. Libreoffice also produced really poor kerning, poor antialising and figure quality after resizing (though perhaps this has improved since my last try).

Beamer and google slides are fine when you want bullet points or a figure. My scientific work produces lots of pictures and graphs - figure placement and labelling is really important. Animations are also sometimes necessary. Beamer, google slides and libreoffice just don't work well there.

Re: Wine 5.0

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Post by wiz21c »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #7
ziotom78 wrote: post #3

Let's hope that «multi-monitor support» will help this bug [1] go away! I have found that most of the Windows apps I used to rely on have good counterparts working on Linux, but sadly nothing matches Powerpoint (no, LibreOffice does not count). [1] https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7416

LibreOffice is able to create presentations in PDF format, and that's all anyone needs from presentations.

I love LibreOffice and rely only on it. But its Impress part is really cumbersome to use compared to PowerPoint (and I hate to admit that).

All the icons are lined up front and hard to distinguish; some bugs are really annoying (animated transitions don't work on my computers); some functionalities are tough to find : grouping/ungrouping for example.

If only I had time, I'd work to fix that...

Re: Wine 5.0

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Post by Dayshine »

Does Wine still require the complicated, hard to manage, and poorly documented use of various combinations of WINEPREFIX, Winetricks and WINEARCH?

It always seemed to me the easiest thing was to spin up a new VM for every application I wanted to run in Wine.

I feel like that isn't the intention, but without any built-in profile management you're always one typo away from wrecking your entire Wine setup.

Re: Wine 5.0

#15

Post by Wowfunhappy »

classified wrote: post #14

To the attention of Mac users: Wine won't work on macOS Catalina 10.15 Apple is doing us no favors here, so be aware.

Crossover works, and Wineskin + the Crossover engine works if SIP is turned off.

Re: Wine 5.0

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Post by ebg13 »

classified wrote: post #14

To the attention of Mac users: Wine won't work on macOS Catalina 10.15 Apple is doing us no favors here, so be aware.

Hopefully Wine 6 will find a comfortable adaptation of the CrossOver 19 method.

Re: Wine 5.0

#17

Post by marc3842h »

ziotom78 wrote: post #3

Let's hope that «multi-monitor support» will help this bug [1] go away! I have found that most of the Windows apps I used to rely on have good counterparts working on Linux, but sadly nothing matches Powerpoint (no, LibreOffice does not count). [1] https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7416

Pretty sure Office is available as web app[0]

[0]: https://products.office.com/en-us/free-office-online-for-the...

Re: Wine 5.0

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Post by sparkling »

Dayshine wrote: post #13

Does Wine still require the complicated, hard to manage, and poorly documented use of various combinations of WINEPREFIX, Winetricks and WINEARCH? It always seemed to me the easiest thing was to spin up a new VM for every application I wanted to run in Wine. I feel like that isn't the intention, but without any built-in profile management you're always one typo away from wrecking your entire Wine setup.

For games i use Lutis (https://lutris.net/) which gives you something similar to "profiles" (they call it runners, pre-configured isolated WINE instances) for each application. Also it includes a bunch of tricks and helpers out of the box.

Re: Wine 5.0

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Post by clarry »

Dayshine wrote: post #13

Does Wine still require the complicated, hard to manage, and poorly documented use of various combinations of WINEPREFIX, Winetricks and WINEARCH? It always seemed to me the easiest thing was to spin up a new VM for every application I wanted to run in Wine. I feel like that isn't the intention, but without any built-in profile management you're always one typo away from wrecking your entire Wine setup.

I don't understand what is so hard about WINEPREFIX and WINEARCH? Instead of a new VM, just use a new wineprefix for each application. Wintetricks works in your prefix, it doesn't take any special setup.

Re: Wine 5.0

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Post by ailideex »

sparkling wrote: post #18
Dayshine wrote: post #13

Does Wine still require the complicated, hard to manage, and poorly documented use of various combinations of WINEPREFIX, Winetricks and WINEARCH? It always seemed to me the easiest thing was to spin up a new VM for every application I wanted to run in Wine. I feel like that isn't the intention, but without any built-in profile management you're always one typo away from wrecking your entire Wine setup.

For games i use Lutis ( https://lutris.net/ ) which gives you something similar to "profiles" (they call it runners, pre-configured isolated WINE instances) for each application. Also it includes a bunch of tricks and helpers out of the box.

I actually have better mileage without lutris - not sure why.
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