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Deaf man sues Pornhub over lack of closed captions in violation of the ADA

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Re: Deaf man sues Pornhub over lack of closed captions in violation of the ADA

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Curious: why isn't all porn sites sued for this? I don't quite get why they're only going after PH? Is it because it's harder to win a case against 1000 websites? Is it because it's more overhead to go after multiple sites and they expect the biggest return on investment only going after the biggest one? Anyone smarter than me who has a take?

Re: Deaf man sues Pornhub over lack of closed captions in violation of the ADA

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post #11

Curious: why isn't all porn sites sued for this? I don't quite get why they're only going after PH? Is it because it's harder to win a case against 1000 websites? Is it because it's more overhead to go after multiple sites and they expect the biggest return on investment only going after the biggest one? Anyone smarter than me who has a take?

they make money

Re: Deaf man sues Pornhub over lack of closed captions in violation of the ADA

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

World cannot laugh enough about this. Let's be transparently honest about this!

It must be because I have worked with advocates for disabled people. I don't see the funny aspect. I'm glad for the laws. Either they apply or they do not. Either our hearing-disabled brothers and sisters are equal or they are not. It's juvenile to somehow factor porn out and say it shouldn't count there.

Yeah, but what about the case that @threatofrain mentioned? If a company has no resources to auto-generate CCs for every video uploaded, then it should be punished and sued? (Of course this case does not apply to PH)

Re: Deaf man sues Pornhub over lack of closed captions in violation of the ADA

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post #11

Curious: why isn't all porn sites sued for this? I don't quite get why they're only going after PH? Is it because it's harder to win a case against 1000 websites? Is it because it's more overhead to go after multiple sites and they expect the biggest return on investment only going after the biggest one? Anyone smarter than me who has a take?

(IANAL) But could it be something with where the pr0n site is registered as a business. Have something to do with its ADA required obligaitons ?

Or that he has a particular preference for PH ?

Re: Deaf man sues Pornhub over lack of closed captions in violation of the ADA

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If a company doesn't have the kind of technology to effectively transcribe their large volume of videos and the daily rate of uploads, then must they simply start taking down videos? If a company started hiring inhouse to develop such tech, how long would it take?

Yes, just like if a company doesn't have the technology to keep its workers safe, it must stop putting them at risk

Re: Deaf man sues Pornhub over lack of closed captions in violation of the ADA

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post #11

Curious: why isn't all porn sites sued for this? I don't quite get why they're only going after PH? Is it because it's harder to win a case against 1000 websites? Is it because it's more overhead to go after multiple sites and they expect the biggest return on investment only going after the biggest one? Anyone smarter than me who has a take?

Precedent: a conviction against one will encourage the others to do the right thing while avoiding the cost of having 1000's of defendants.

Re: Deaf man sues Pornhub over lack of closed captions in violation of the ADA

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If a company doesn't have the kind of technology to effectively transcribe their large volume of videos and the daily rate of uploads, then must they simply start taking down videos? If a company started hiring inhouse to develop such tech, how long would it take?

Given the performance of Google's auto-captioning, I suspect developing worthwhile auto-captioning is pretty difficult; according to [1] the better Youtube channels use gig economy captioning at $1 per minute.

Of course, there would be some scope for efficiency - no need to pay for captioning when the performers aren't speaking!

[1] https://www.wired.com/story/problem-with-youtubes-terrible-c...

Re: Deaf man sues Pornhub over lack of closed captions in violation of the ADA

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

World cannot laugh enough about this. Let's be transparently honest about this!

It must be because I have worked with advocates for disabled people. I don't see the funny aspect. I'm glad for the laws. Either they apply or they do not. Either our hearing-disabled brothers and sisters are equal or they are not. It's juvenile to somehow factor porn out and say it shouldn't count there.

They are obviously not equal. They are hearing disabled. That's a red herring.

Should the society support them to lead normal lives as much as possible? We can pretty much agree on that, at least as long as the costs are reasonable (for example one billion per inner ear implant is definitely not).

If you put the problem like this it's obvious there is room for discussion. Is PH captioning helping them live normal lives? Is the cost reasonable? Is it really the best direction for society to put resources?

People will answer differently, of course, not being identical copies. But the conversation itself is legitimate.

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