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YouTube Gives Us Love Without the Messiness

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Re: YouTube Gives Us Love Without the Messiness

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I wonder how long it'll take to get lightly personalized ML generated variation of such content. And how long it'll take to people notice that it's generated and not a "real" person

Wait until the generated content realizes that it is itself generated, then the real trouble will begin

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With all its overly discussed faults, YT is such an invaluable resource. There is so much free high-quality content: educational, sport, music, spiritual. YT should get some respect and recognition. I'm an avid yt music user. There is practically infinite musical content there never released on any other medium. It's an irreplaceable cultural treasure.

Sure, there is immense value of the youtube content.

Question is if any of the good sides of youtube can be attributed to youtube itself or if it is just the presence of a free and popular video distribution channel that enabled them.

The youtube monopoly is getting quite unbearable, and the ads can be insanely intrusive. Which of course is a feature, so that you'll buy a youtube subscription.

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A similar phenomenon is the use of pets as pseudo-children or relationship partners. Babies are expensive and ruin your sleep for years. Significant others can cheat on you, leave or simply get boring. A cat, however, just like these YouTube boyfriends, is fairly inexpensive, practically takes care of itself, will always love you and will never leave. It is a sort of infantalization of the relationship process.

I think the only solution will be a cultural recognition that the consumeristic mentality of easier = better isn’t necessarily true, and that difficulty, struggle and suffering are inherently worthwhile, more authentic and character-building.

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With all its overly discussed faults, YT is such an invaluable resource. There is so much free high-quality content: educational, sport, music, spiritual. YT should get some respect and recognition. I'm an avid yt music user. There is practically infinite musical content there never released on any other medium. It's an irreplaceable cultural treasure.

I totally agree with you, but I also notice the slow but steady increase in ad content before, between, below all YouTube videos, that also seem to call back to my preferences, feelings, tastes, past interactions, etc. The question I always ask is: how long until YouTube removes the ability to skip ads altogether? How long until a painfully nontrivial portion of our browsing time is spent directly consuming propagand…

If you don't want to pay for it and you don't want to be 'consuming propaganda' who do you think should be paying to run YouTube for you?

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Don't date robots: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrrADTN-dvg

...because dating is the motivation for young men to accomplish awesome things, according to this video. It’s a fun thought experiment, though:

- On one side, women provide half the work (a recent article on HN said they were now the majority of US workers),

- On the other, if access to family life was a motivator in the 50ies, what is the motivator in the 2020ies, now that dating isn’t... vetted by parents/society/social status? Will we keep accomplishing awesome things? How much motivation will one put into it given the rewards are now rather inversely correlated with work? (Working out, travelling the world, doing NGO work is opposite to having a career, and it’s not even enough to grant one hopes in relationships).

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With all its overly discussed faults, YT is such an invaluable resource. There is so much free high-quality content: educational, sport, music, spiritual. YT should get some respect and recognition. I'm an avid yt music user. There is practically infinite musical content there never released on any other medium. It's an irreplaceable cultural treasure.

It deserves credit as a product but I prefer to acknowledge the cultural impact of the internet as a medium. Regarding music I’ve found its algorithm getting worse. I used to go on benders of discovery on YouTube. I just don’t see that anymore.

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A similar phenomenon is the use of pets as pseudo-children or relationship partners. Babies are expensive and ruin your sleep for years. Significant others can cheat on you, leave or simply get boring. A cat, however, just like these YouTube boyfriends, is fairly inexpensive, practically takes care of itself, will always love you and will never leave. It is a sort of infantalization of the relationship process. I thi…

There is nothing wrong whatsoever with wanting companionship and getting a pet. Extra points if you take it from a shelter.

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post #17

A similar phenomenon is the use of pets as pseudo-children or relationship partners. Babies are expensive and ruin your sleep for years. Significant others can cheat on you, leave or simply get boring. A cat, however, just like these YouTube boyfriends, is fairly inexpensive, practically takes care of itself, will always love you and will never leave. It is a sort of infantalization of the relationship process. I thi…

There is nothing wrong whatsoever with wanting companionship and getting a pet. Extra points if you take it from a shelter.

That isn’t what I said, at all. Pets are awesome. But they aren’t replacements for human connection.

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A similar phenomenon is the use of pets as pseudo-children or relationship partners. Babies are expensive and ruin your sleep for years. Significant others can cheat on you, leave or simply get boring. A cat, however, just like these YouTube boyfriends, is fairly inexpensive, practically takes care of itself, will always love you and will never leave. It is a sort of infantalization of the relationship process. I thi…

Cat does not love you. It never leaves, cause you locked it. If you move away, cat prefers to stay.

Treating children like pets would be effectively emotional abuse. And while dog can fill some of yours emotional needs, quite frankly, kids won't.

I have children and had pet and I can tell you that those two are comparable in any way. Not just in easy vs hard scale, but it is fundamentally different relationship.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is nothing wrong whatsoever with wanting companionship and getting a pet. Extra points if you take it from a shelter.

That isn’t what I said, at all. Pets are awesome. But they aren’t replacements for human connection.

And if someone tells you that it is for them, will you inform them that they are wrong to feel that way?
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