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Finland’s Prime Minister Calls for Debate on 4-Day Work Week

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Wish we had younger representation in government in the US like this

That’s what freaks me out about the last presidential elections. Seems the number one requirement to be a front runner is to be at least 70 at Election Day. Ideally even 80 as the democrats seem to be willing to demonstrate.

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#13

Thirty-Hour work week was on the political agenda in the US in the 1930s. It's about time. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20086446

Nixon of all people talked about it in 1956: https://www.nytimes.com/1956/09/23/archives/nixon-foresees-4...

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I feel it is sensible in multiple ways: 1) People should reap benefit of automation. 2) Less urge to generate bullshit work to fill in 40+ hours. 3) Could force employers to think of more equalized distribution of work. So a few more people can get a job and overworked people can get some leisure.

The real problem is that another country with lesser ethics will work their workers into the ground and out-compete your country in terms of productivity. Then, they'll get to effectively make all the labor rules because they'll have so much more money and can leech your workers away for higher salaries.

The real solution here is to prevent worker-leeching but that seems incredible draconian (and you'd have to get every single country to agree to it).

Re: Finland’s Prime Minister Calls for Debate on 4-Day Work Week

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Misleading headline. In the article she did not "call for a debate" on it. She was asked about it and said it's not in the current plans '“Until now, the trend has been toward shorter working hours as productivity has increased,” she told reporters in Harpsund, Sweden. “I believe that in the future, though not in the next few years, the development will be similar: improvements in productivity and technology should s…

Actually the title is correct, she said the matter should be able to be discussed, and should be discussed. That qualifies as calling for a debate. Not what the previous clickbait articles said, this one is absolutely correct.

Source: https://twitter.com/MarinSanna/status/1163372847894544384

Re: Finland’s Prime Minister Calls for Debate on 4-Day Work Week

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Misleading headline. In the article she did not "call for a debate" on it. She was asked about it and said it's not in the current plans '“Until now, the trend has been toward shorter working hours as productivity has increased,” she told reporters in Harpsund, Sweden. “I believe that in the future, though not in the next few years, the development will be similar: improvements in productivity and technology should s…

Yeah, there's been very little in the Finnish news about this. It's not really a current topic.

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#17

Thirty-Hour work week was on the political agenda in the US in the 1930s. It's about time. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20086446

The IWW was campaigning for a 4-hour day and 4 days a week in the 30's as well.

Core Wobbly demand from 1905 on, really.

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post #9

I feel it is sensible in multiple ways: 1) People should reap benefit of automation. 2) Less urge to generate bullshit work to fill in 40+ hours. 3) Could force employers to think of more equalized distribution of work. So a few more people can get a job and overworked people can get some leisure.

I worked a strict 35 hour week in Germany for a while and I think this was the most productive environment I have ever worked in. People had energy to actually work during working hours and management didn’t waste any time with indecision. And we managed to be the world market leader in our industry with a 35 hour week.

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post #9

I feel it is sensible in multiple ways: 1) People should reap benefit of automation. 2) Less urge to generate bullshit work to fill in 40+ hours. 3) Could force employers to think of more equalized distribution of work. So a few more people can get a job and overworked people can get some leisure.

The real problem is that another country with lesser ethics will work their workers into the ground and out-compete your country in terms of productivity. Then, they'll get to effectively make all the labor rules because they'll have so much more money and can leech your workers away for higher salaries. The real solution here is to prevent worker-leeching but that seems incredible draconian (and you'd have to get ev…

I fail to see how this is a distinct concern from existing outsourcing value propositions.
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