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Re: Comma Two Devkit

#11
If there is anything about Comma.ai that I have seen beyond the hype of self-driving cars, I see this as substance, unlike the rest of them AI self-driving cars (Except Tesla). The idea to turn your existing car into self-driving rather than spending $$$ on a new one makes sense for those saving money.

Comma.ai is for cars what Linux is for PCs, meaning that you use open-source software and a hardware kit to make your existing car self-driving. Very clever!

Re: Comma Two Devkit

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post #11

If there is anything about Comma.ai that I have seen beyond the hype of self-driving cars, I see this as substance, unlike the rest of them AI self-driving cars (Except Tesla). The idea to turn your existing car into self-driving rather than spending $$$ on a new one makes sense for those saving money. Comma.ai is for cars what Linux is for PCs, meaning that you use open-source software and a hardware kit to make you…

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Comma.ai represents a strange attitude towards life in which you try to turn hard, serious problems (like self-driving), into trivial problems (write some Python and run it on Android phones and plug it into your car!) and try get away with it. It only has a chance of working if you are cool enough in SV such as geohot. I interviewed there once and it was extremely off-putting how clear their demand for fast progress was, and how little they cared about safety.

It's move fast and break things all over again.

Think about how the tech community rips apart Boeing and demands the utmost in quality engineering, reliability, redundancy, testing. And then we have comma, which controls your vehicle on a non-realtime system...

If you ran comma.ai in your car and had a serious crash, you could possibly be found criminally negligent.

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#17

The Comma One source code was put online (I think by the author?) and deemed to be incredibly dangerous. If I recall there was very little error handling. Does anyone know what has really changed since then?

Well, it didn't take me long to find a message about this on the frontpage that clearly says:

> Keep your eyes on the road.

> "While engaged, openpilot includes camera based driver monitoring that works both day and night to alert the driver when their eyes are not on the road ahead"

Also, if there are deaths around other autonomous systems like we have seen from Tesla and Uber then perhaps they're even more dangerous as they are closed-systems, unlike this then.

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Comma.ai represents a strange attitude towards life in which you try to turn hard, serious problems (like self-driving), into trivial problems (write some Python and run it on Android phones and plug it into your car!) and try get away with it. It only has a chance of working if you are cool enough in SV such as geohot. I interviewed there once and it was extremely off-putting how clear their demand for fast progress…

I'm curious about this perspective and would like to know more, could you expand on this?

Re: Comma Two Devkit

#19
Quick bit of feedback for any Comma employees lurking:

It took me a very long time to realize that this was a self-driving solution for existing vehicles. The hero just says

"Driven over 6 million miles" and then a "Buy Now".

When I scrolled down and looked at the product and read:

> We’ve added an infrared camera to provide 24/7 driver monitoring, an integrated panda, a custom cooling solution, and an OBD-C port with power supplied directly from the car.

I thought it was some kind of dash cam + driver sleep monitor? Also, most of those words don't mean anything to me.

Only after deeply investigating it did I realize that it's basically Tesla Autopilot for existing vehicles.

You have an awesome value prop though, "Bring autopilot features, to your car." Make that clear!

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